Tuesday, February 09, 2016

Endemic Hints By RS That He WAS One Of The Real Killers Pretty Blatant In Italy #1

Posted by Peter Quennell



TV commentator Selvaggia Lucarelli voices what numerous Italians think


“Social Network For Dead People Launched In Italy By Amanda Knox’s Ex-Boyfriend”

We didnt make that headline up. Really. Sollecito’s gruesome venture is described here.

Called Memories, the business will provide a wide range of “graveyard” services, including lightning candles for the deceased, laying wreaths and flowers at graves, and even tombstone cleaning. Once a service is completed, the client’s profile will be updated with a high-resolution photo showing the work done. The prices start at €45 (50 dollars).

The project received a €66,000 grant (nearly $74,000) from Apulia’s regional authorities. Some extra expenses were covered by Sollecito and his family, The Local reported.

According to Sollecite, the idea came to him after his mother died in 2005. The grieving young man thought it would be a convenient way to look after her grave. “I wanted a way to make remembering her easier,” he explained.

Selvaggia Lucarelli is an influential blogger and a sharp and often very funny guest commentator on many TV shows in Italy.  Like many in Italy, she doesnt just want to hold her nose and give the death-fixated fruitcake a free pass.

This time Sollecito ends up in the clutches of a journalist known for her controversy and sharp tone.

It seems that Lucarelli did not welcome the new start-up by the engineer from Puglia.

“See, Raffaele Sollecito, this thing to create a portal for funerals may seem clever but but is really macabre and in addition paints you for who you are (disrespectful and unintelligent) and casts an even more disturbing shadow over you - a healthy person judged innocent by a court while half of Italy is still convinced he’s guilty would instead seek media oblivion.

And if not oblivion, at least a career a few fields away from the smell of death, the suspicion that death carries with it, the face of a little girl named Meredith who was killed like a dog.

But there is obviously a sadistic pleasure in you wanting to see yourself still, with your hair slicked back and a funereal expression, on the front pages of newspapers associated with the word “death” and social networks associated with predictable jokes on the name Meredith.

Meredith needs to be remembered and respected in the silence of your home, not on a portal through which you try to make your wallet fat - you know that wont happen - and boost your macabre popularity.




Comments

That he is “unintelligent” came across with full force in the US when Sollecito was blundering his way through his TV interviews after his book came out.

Follow for example this arc: how TV host Katie Couric ended up coldshouldering Sollecito - turned her back - because of some really stupid lies:

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/katie_couric_how_to_push_back_against_sollecitos_narcissistic_bluster_1/

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/katie_couric_how_to_push_back_against_sollecitos_narcissistic_bluster_/

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/powerpoints_18_katie_couric_interviews_raffaele_sollecito/

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/the_rather_strained_couric-sollecito_interview_reading_between_the_lin/

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/the_rather_strained_couric-sollecito_interview_reading_between_the_lin1/

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/09/16 at 03:34 PM | #

What a stinging indictment of Sollecito and his social network followers. A high profile Italian personality at last sticks it to him and points out what a shabby, mean spirited, despicable person he is. More importantly she’s telling him to treat Meredith and her memory with RESPECT. This could be just what is needed to encourage others to start asking Sollecito some hard questions.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/09/16 at 03:48 PM | #

There is also this mega-cynical article. It’s in Italian (although Guermantes has captured the tone very well in his tranny on PMF.net copied below).

http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2016/02/08/sanremo-2016-raffaele-sollecito-presenta-la-sua-start-up-funeraria-cosi-la-citta-dei-fiori-diventa-quella-del-caro-estinto/2443483/

You should click the link though, because it has an astonishing image of il Raf, and there are a few Engish words - like TROLL - which get applied to l’íngegnere.

Il Fatto Quotidiano (which is the newspaper where the article appears) prides itself on being the only bit of mainstream Italian press which receives no party or government funding.

Translation by Guermantes http://www.perugiamurderfile.net/viewtopic.php?p=130186#p130186

Sanremo 2016, Raffaele Sollecito presents his funereal start-up. So the city of flowers becomes that of the deceased

By Michele Monina

Chrysanthemums are flowers. Ok. It is the first point. Reading certain names of contestants, and especially going for a ride through the streets around the Ariston, with all its comings and goings of characters vaguely touched, I won’t say by fame, but at least by a minimum of notoriety, and now thawed and returned to life for a week away from Mom’s TV (daytime TV shows), one feels to be present in a graveyard (santo campo) rather than on a stage dedicated to a saint (un palco dedicato a un santo). It is the second point. Sanremo Sanremo, no matter what you came to represent. Third point.

Let’s face it, why Raffaele Sollecito, indicted in the trial for the murder of Meredith Kercher and acquitted in March of 2015, chose Sanremo to launch his startup is a real mystery. The fact that the startup in question, sponsored by the Puglia region, has as its theme the funeral, well, leaves more perplexed than anything else, as if Sollecito, not happy to be out [of prison], feeling a little battered by his treatment by the media during the trial for the crime of Perugia, has decided to become a kind of troll, an active figure on the net that tries to attract attention in an almost violent way.

Because the feeling is strong that Sollecito is trolling while talking about possibility of buying flowers online, commemorating the deceased or finding the location of a grave of a loved one on a special map linked to a satellite. Could he not choose another field? Or maybe simply choose a situation a little less worldly to launch his creature, BeOnMemories.com, born thanks to a grant of sixty six thousand Euros from the Puglia region? Clearly, trade feeds on marketing, and the news that Sollecito today has unveiled his funereal startup here in Sanremo is making the rounds on the networks, but good taste, to put it delicately, comes up a bit short (in bad shape).

Also because, by typing on the site, it says that it is a work in progress, so that the impression that it is purely a media presentation is difficult to remove. From tomorrow on, hopefully, Sanremo will again become the city of Sanremo Festival, and the flowers that will be discussed will not be the ones to put under the tombstones, but those that Carlo Conti, a gentleman, will donate to his colleagues and female guests. For now, for today, Sanremo is also the city of the deceased.

Posted by Sallyoo on 02/09/16 at 04:52 PM | #

Terrific. Michele Monina (a man) is also high-profile, he has written various popular books.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/“Michele Monina”?Ntk=P_key_Contributor_List&Ns=P_Sales_Rank&Ntx=mode+matchall

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/09/16 at 05:56 PM | #

“the suspicion that death carries with it, the face of a little girl named Meredith who was killed like a dog.”

Meredith wasn’t just killed, she was also the victim of sexual assault and attempted rape. From Mauro Marchchioni’s testimony, courtesy of olleosnep

http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Mauro_Marchionni’s_Testimony

We now see the internal bruising inside Meredith’s body are consistent with rape. Puts Sollecito’s blurting about Vaseline and Lyn Duncan’s shameful tweet to the Kercher family with a Vaseline Jar photo in perspective.

Posted by Ergon on 02/09/16 at 08:23 PM | #

Lucarelli’s description of young knifey’s doomed business venture is excoriating to say the least. I’d imagine his drug use these days is on the up; if only to try and get to sleep at night.

RS and AK may be free in the physical sense but they are trapped in the stinking and permanent sewers of their own minds. It couldn’t happen to two more deserving ingrates.

Posted by davidmulhern on 02/09/16 at 09:04 PM | #

This is just f**king creepy.

Knox putting her ‘‘creative writing’’ to use by re-writing her blood money memoir.  Now Sollecito uses his ‘‘computer science’’ skills to create a network devoted to dead people.

Still cashing in.  Is anyone really surprised?

Humour me: does this ‘‘social network’’ have any apps that let you visit the dead people’s graves?

Posted by Chimera on 02/09/16 at 09:24 PM | #

Pardon the double posting—but didn’t the sick f*** Raffy also do his master’s thesis in 2014 on himself?  It was the ‘‘association experiment’’ where social media reacts to guilty/innocent based on various court verdicts.

Salveggia Luccrelli is absolutely right, it does cast a disturbing shadow.

Posted by Chimera on 02/09/16 at 09:32 PM | #

Sollecito is corruptly let-off Causing-Death charges, and then rewarded by a Public Agency with Public Money to make more money by launching a Social Network for Dead People?

This is Truly Sick.

Posted by Cardiol MD on 02/09/16 at 11:15 PM | #

The brain-dead little shit is only concerned with public image reconstruction. Who can forget his white-jacketed appearance at the glitzy press conference with Bongiorno? In what passes for his “mind” there’s nothing that can’t be redeemed with strong PR and the odd threat of legal action ( unfortunately he’s in tune with the times there).

Staying with what he’s done and feeling guilt is not on his radar… at the moment,  but the time will soon come when he realises that nobody is buying his bluster (well done Lucarelli on that score) and everywhere he goes all he will encounter will be distrust and and a sea of accusing eyes. That’s when his pathetic project and on-going denial will run out of steam, and he will be forced to find a way to live with himself and what he’s done.

Posted by Odysseus on 02/10/16 at 06:20 AM | #

@Cardiol

I agree - it is sick that a public agency could be so easily corralled into his nefarious scheme.

Posted by Odysseus on 02/10/16 at 07:05 AM | #

“According to Sollecite, the idea came to him after his mother died in 2005. The grieving young man thought it would be a convenient way to look after her grave. “I wanted a way to make remembering her easier,” he explained.”

He hadn’t murdered Meredith Kercher in 2005, and while grieving, he decided that there has to be a more convenient way than actually going to your mother’s grave and leaving flowers yourself.

I read in another Italian media outlet that the idea involved his mother but came to him in prison.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/10/16 at 08:09 AM | #

This is disturbing although not surprising.
He wants an easier way to remember his late mother?
I lost my mother in 1997 and I can tell you not a single day has passed since when she has not been in my thoughts.
I don’t need an app to remember my dear mother, not at all.
This app more than anything exposes the sheer coldness of its creator.

Posted by Deathfish on 02/10/16 at 11:53 AM | #

Keeping in mind that “Jason” (what Knox used to call him, from the Friday the 13th movies) visited Meredith’s grave with Nigel Scott and made a big thing about how “unkempt” it was. That’s him all right. Still profiting from murder. No wonder Italians are disgusted.

Posted by Ergon on 02/10/16 at 02:24 PM | #

While I do applaud those calling Sollecito out I also fear what will be unleashed.

Sollecito’s family have shown a woeful lack of control of an obviously disturbed man and have indulged, via monetary backing, Sollecito’s dark dreaming.

Marasca/Bruno and Hellmann/Zannetti have given verification of ‘omnipotence’ by letting him walk free. If ever anyone was a prime candidate, by all he has done and experienced, for a further terrible act, it is Sollecito.

I’m also totally dismayed at, ‘a convenient way to look after her grave’, “I wanted a way to make remembering her easier”. So remembering a loved one by clicking a button to have flowers on the grave is acceptable? Some stranger cleaning the name plaque salves the consciousness of neglect of the grave monument?

Maybe it’s just me but I’d rather lie under ten foot of weeds until my own came to commune with me in my resting place, than think they’d send strangers to give me a buff and polish so I looked acceptable for passing strangers.

Money, money, money, Sollecito, it doesn’t cut it in the world of human experience and feeling. There’s an old Yorkshire saying, ‘all fur coat and no knickers’, said disparagingly about those who put on the front but have no substance to back it up. I think it fits the Sollecito’s admirably.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/10/16 at 06:47 PM | #

Good to hear that fur coat saying YorkshireLass, we use that one in Scotland too.

We also use “curtains on the windows but no carpets on the floors”. Means much the same and applies equally to Poxy Knoxy and her erstwhile beau.

Posted by davidmulhern on 02/10/16 at 08:19 PM | #

An open question to all:

If Raffy gets a huge fine from his book trial, can the money from this ‘‘death network’’ be seized to pay for it?

Can the Kerchers go after his proceeds?  Either from the book or this?

Posted by Chimera on 02/11/16 at 03:38 PM | #

I concur 100% with all of the above.

Another thought occurs to me: Is this another way for Sollecito to visit Meredith’s grave, by proxy as it were, since he has been ordered by the family to stay away in person?

If his app goes forward (which I very much doubt it ever will, in a practical way), he could literally hire someone ELSE to put flowers on Meredith’s grave for him.

Just wondering why, after being acquitted (not guilty) of the murder of a young woman, he is still so obsessed with visiting, honoring, and marking her grave?

If it were me, I’d just say “Whew!” and go on with my life, convinced that the justice system had taken care of it and put the correct person in prison.

Very odd, this obsession with Meredith’s grave.

Not to mention, disrespectful to the family, who have explicitly requested that she be left to rest in peace.

Posted by Earthling on 02/11/16 at 04:46 PM | #

Sollecito seems fixated on a culture of death. Now he forms a company that locates all the graves in Italy, supposedly for refurbishment. His mom died in 2005. He got a Devilman tattoo on his shoulder in 2005. Devilman from the Manga series was also Rudy’s computer password. Go to Wikipedia and search Devilman entry. It’s all about demons, Satan, Akira the shy young guy who can’t stand up for himself until he turns into Devilman. Apocalyptic stuff with carnage.

IIRC Raffaele’s mother during her lifetime was an accountant or CPA? A comment by YorkshireLass reminded me of Mrs. Sollecito (not sure of her first name) who seemed to be from a fairly wealthy Italian family, but whose marriage to the medical doctor ended in divorce. She seems to have been shoved to the side over the years, perhaps depressed or medicated, and clinging to her only son for solace. Dr. Sollecito said that Raffaele was like his mother in temperament, could that mean in a weakness for medication or nervousness? Also, if Mrs. Sollecito did accounting work, did she possibly do some for her husband and learn too much of his financial activities, good or otherwise?

At her funeral, Raffaele had a kind of meltdown and stood like a lion at the gate insisting that no person whose name was “Sollecito” could attend her funeral. That was 2005. Two years later he was involved with murder.

On the one hand, I believe he truly loved and sympathized with his mother, and does want to remember her resting place. On the other, I think he has some kind of complicated grief reaction and unfinished business, possibly guilt and regret, even if only imagined and undeserved by him, such sorrow, but with his mom these emotions have now attached themselves to Meredith’s death. The business he has set up to tend graves, clean mausoleums, place candles and flowers etc. is not a bad thing at all in itself, but in Raffaele’s case it seems a dangerous and continued fixation on death and morbidity, right after he has been judged not guilty and free to begin a new lease on life. Maybe he does it as some form of penance and catharsis for his part in covering up Meredith’s murder. His father must be appalled yet powerless.

Posted by Hopeful on 02/11/16 at 10:26 PM | #

Having been in the Armed Forces for forty three years during several conflicts including Vietnam plus a very nasty affair in Namibia with SWAPPO. We were all indoctrinated with the belief that if there is a problem, and if nothing else works, direct action must be taken in order to eradicate said problem. I firmly believe this.

Sometimes the decision to sacrifice ones self must be made to bring about the common good. This, I consider to be most important because the survival of societal values demands that a cancer must be cut from the tree of life.

The eradication of such a cancer, as described in these pages, is the main thrust of what we do here and diminishing the desire for justice against Amanda Knox and Raphael Sollecito will only bring about complacency and the conclusion in some quarters that others can also get away with murder.

Therefore the decision at some point must be made with regard to an action being placed on the ground and taken even if that action means personal sacrifice.

This has nothing to do with self aggrandizement either, or the elevation of ones personal stock in life. It is simply something that at some point must be done by any means at ones disposal be that covert or otherwise.

Let me be clear, This has nothing to do with hate, or caring about an adversary in any way whatever. It is not the need to ‘balance the books’. Having no feelings for something who one regards as less than an insect makes the removal of said insect very easy.

Good people, by enlarge, are governed by a sense of responsibility and have feelings of guilt when they do harm to others. Not only do they harm themselves they harm society as a whole therefore those who do not feel guilt must be removed from society for the good of society. Of course not all of them can be removed but there are glaring exceptions such as Amanda Knox and Raphael Sollecito.

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/12/16 at 03:22 PM | #

I absolutely object to the sentiments expressed above. Vigilantism is abhorrent and should not be allowed to stand under any circumstances.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/12/16 at 07:29 PM | #

I hope that you mean by legitimate legal process Grahame, and that I have had a knee jerk reaction, but I am appalled at the context of war that you place it in. There are real moves going on here in legally acceptable formats to defame Knox and Sollecito. They will not be likely to face the weight of the law now but facing the weight of public disapproval will stop them from profiting from their crimes, at least. That has to suffice while the victims beyond Meredith, her family, make their choices. I joined this site believing it to be about debate of the forward momentum of developments related to the case, and in the hope that Meredith’s family feel supported by concern that she has not received the justice she deserves, in terms of knowing how she passed and who was ultimately responsible for that. I feel that your comments detract from the serious discussion that goes on here which seems to me to be about bringing the truth beyond the media inventions/omissions into the public domain so that they can make up there own minds.

Posted by YorkshireLass on 02/12/16 at 08:09 PM | #

Yes all well and good. There is also a quote from the bible concerning seasons and a time for each. I too abhor vigilantism in all it’s forms. I was referring to the view, so very prevalent in military indoctrination, concerning the eradication of a problem. Considering that however a discussion such as here can degenerate away from the full impact of what took place. In other words it becomes a cerebral endeavor and not a desire for justice.

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/12/16 at 09:14 PM | #

I am unsurprised. He is doing what comes naturally to him. This is the best he could think of?

Posted by chami on 02/13/16 at 12:16 AM | #

Back to the Law.

In Anglo-American Common Law, an individual is complicit in a crime if:
1. aware of the crime’s occurrence, and,
2. has the ability to report the crime, but
3. fails to report the crime.

As such, the individual effectively allows criminals to carry out a crime despite potentially being able to stop the crime from happening, either directly or by contacting those officially appointed to stop crime.

The offender is a de facto accessory to the crime, rather than an innocent bystander.

The Manson murders in the US are are relevant to understanding the issue of physical-presence at the murder-scene.

Manson was found Jointly, and Severally liable for multiple murders even though he was Not Present at the murder-scene.

AK/RS were ruled Not Guilty by Marasca-Bruno in spite of being also ruled present, as if they were innocent bystanders.

Are no other facts relevant?
Does it boil-down to what Marasca-Bruno meant by “Present”?
Does ” Presence” require physical presence at “the-scene-of-the-crime”?

Is “the-scene-of-the-crime” restricted to the specific room in which the murder took place?

One fact ignored by Marasca-Bruno is:
The clean-up activity that cannot reasonably be attributed to Guede.

Also, the false accusation by Knox of Patrick Lumumba, although not ignored, should have been specifically factored-in to the issue of her guilt.

In the US and the U.K., these facts alone would almost certainly have excluded reasonable doubt; together with the numerous other relevant facts AK & RS would have been found guilty in the US and the U.K.

The Marasco/Bruno finding of Knox and Sollecito being not guilty beyond a reasonable-doubt, in spite of being present in part of the murder-scene is even worse than if Charles Manson had been found not guilty in the US on grounds that he was Not even Present at the murder-scenes for which he was actually found Jointly and Severally Liable.

Knox and Sollecito, having been ruled present at the murder-scene by Marasco/Bruno should also have been found Jointly and Severally Liable.

Will Italy correct this corrupt failure?

Posted by Cardiol MD on 02/13/16 at 02:27 AM | #

I’d like to think Italy will correct this corrupt failure @Cardiol but the built in inertia in the system appears to be extremely difficult to overcome. We live in hope.

As regards the vigilantism discussion/spat immediately preceding your comment, I’m sure virtually all contributors to this site are aware that civilised society could not operate if such behaviour was tolerated. However…

Who amongst us would shed a tear if, as a result of vigilantism, Knox/Sollecito/OJ/Casey Anthony etc etc were to receive their comeuppance? I know I wouldn’t.

Then again, I’m very much of the opinion that if you take another person’s life in the circumstances and using the methodology of any of the aforementioned cases, then you should forfeit the right to your own life. I am unencumbered by religious sensitivities and do not believe human life is sacrosanct and to be preserved at all costs. I value all life and those who don’t, don’t deserve to breathe the same air as me. In my opinion.

It would be simple to construct a moral thought experiment (Sam Harris does does these kinds of things very well so I won’t plagiarise or attempt to copy his work) where taking vigilante action would not only be the morally right thing to do but it would be utterly immoral not to act.

Again though, I’m not advocating vigilantism, I’m just saying everything isn’t black and white when considering such things. There are shades of grey. Would anyone really be calling for prison if a member of Meredith’s family or the Goldmans managed to get their hands on the perpetrators of murder against their loved ones?

When the system lets you down, and shows no sign of correcting itself, what recourse is left for true justice for those who have truly been wronged? This, I think, is what Grahame may have been getting at. Forgive me Grahame if I’ve misrepresented you.

Posted by davidmulhern on 02/13/16 at 06:48 AM | #

I just read the latest offering from Knox, published online on the West Seattle Herald on 8 February. It’s chilling to read the first paragraph in particular.

She absolutely cannot help herself but keep referencing what we all know she was involved in. She talks of “listening to or witnessing another person’s suffering” that can leave you feeling “inadequate, hollow, defeated”. I believe this is continued mocking of the Kerchers in what she probably thinks of as a clever way. Disguising it to be about something else but knowing they will see it and be hurt by it.

I wonder if she sought her relative in Germany’s approval before splashing personal details all over the Internet? Some comments that follow the article are interesting if only to show that some of her family were part of the nazi war machine.

I accessed the article via her Twitter account (@amamaknox) and the main picture at the top is yet more mocking in my view. Knox, together with three “friends” they portray a devil beside a “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” representation. Knox being the “see no evil” part. Replete with supercilious hint of a grin. Shameful.

The inset picture of her with a cat is as far from the foxy Knoxy image that I think she actually revelled in as you could possibly get. The years have not been kind.

As the psychiatrist said of Basil Fawlty in a classic episode of Fawlty Towers, “there’s enough material there for a whole conference”. Methinks the same sentiment applies to Knox.

Posted by davidmulhern on 02/13/16 at 07:11 AM | #

@ Grahame Rhodes, you recently wrote:
“I was struck by the glaring parallels of Amanda Knox and Rafael Sollecito murdering Meredith Kercher and David Eisenhaur and Natalie Keepers who murdered Nicole Lovell in Virginia.”

Very apt, Grahame. I agree.

Keepers is stated to be adamant that she was NOT PRESENT at the murder-scene. Such adamance is obfuscation.

And as davidmulhern just said:

“When the system lets you down, and shows no sign of correcting itself, what recourse is left for true justice for those who have truly been wronged? This, I think, is what Grahame may have been getting at.”
I agree with Davidmulhern too.

Posted by Cardiol MD on 02/13/16 at 08:55 AM | #

Exoneree? Now her badge of honour? And, (forgive me) but but exoneree does rhyme with escapee.

Posted by DavidB on 02/13/16 at 03:18 PM | #

Bright sunny day in NYC and theres a few cars around. But its pretty well deserted on the streets and tomorrow it will be like a ghost-town here.

Reason is there’s an icy blast from the north, and in about 20 hours the lowest temperature here on record is being foreseen.

Right now with the windchill factor included its around 0F (-17C) and you might think “wussies!” if you have experienced that. But theres a drop of maybe 20 more degrees to come (-30C).

Hour by hour the gauges are slowly ticking down.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/13/16 at 04:02 PM | #

@davidmulhern, thank you for directing us to Knox’s West Seattle Herald article dated Feb. 8, 2016. She titled it, “Living History”.  Knox opens the story stating clearly that she identifies firmly with her Oma, who went through a terrible war and lost her mother to an air raid bomb in Graz, Austria. Oma was 8 years old at the time.

Loud and clear implicit in this Amanda=Oma metaphor is that Amanda escaped a terrible conflict that she herself had been the cause of! Yes, Knox caused the war with Meredith, she started the killing.

The German people, sadly misled by the sicko psycho Adolf Hitler, were the rash aggressors in WWII. ” Sad but true is that Oma’s mother was killed because of the war her own people the Germans had begun. This “Living History” does ring true, it’s like a Perugia confession.  It’s a mirror image of the fact that Amanda was the principal aggressor in the fight against Meredith.

She escaped and is now living in America like Oma escaped and is now living in America. 

Knox states in the opening of the Herald article that she empathizes with Oma’s deep and unarticulated feelings of loss and pain. She ends the article by questioning Oma about how it makes Oma feel to find her mother’s name (Marie Zeiler) listed in historical documents as one of those killed by bombs. Oma says it blows her away…but goes on to say that the feelings have of course faded, over time. The feelings can be quickly aroused again, however, as the event retains its importance because, as Oma explains to Knox on the telephone, “It was real.”

Knox seems to be hinting that the crisis of Perugia was real and the life she now lives is not real or not as meaningful. Sounds like the adrenaline junkie looking for her next fix.

@GrahameRhodes, about taking justice into one’s hands. Don’t, Knox and Raffaele will reap what they have sown, as sure at the sun is coming up tomorrow morning. Peace and strength meanwhile. You may be needed for bigger things.

Posted by Hopeful on 02/13/16 at 04:45 PM | #

@Deathfish

I hear you.  My mother died a few hours after Mother’s Day ended, not last Mother’s Day, but the one before that.  My mother was cremated, and doesn’t have a grave.  Sollecito can never go to my mother’s grave, nor send anyone there.  The entire idea offends me. Sollecito, like Knox, is a creepy psychopath, who has made a ‘career’ out the notorious murder that he committed.  BTW, I’ve thought about Sollecito visiting Meredith’s grave.  This might sound petty but neither he, nor Knox, will ever have one as nice, unless they arrange for complete strangers to fake it for them.  It’s no wonder he and his politician friend criticized Meredith’s grave. Knox’s and Sollecito’s jealousy of Meredith knows no end.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/13/16 at 11:28 PM | #

A followup to that article, Raffy not only doesn’t see anything wrong with it, but her plans to expand it.

Keep in mind RS has already cashed in: (1) By putting his name on Andrew Gumbel’s book; (2) Attempting to sue Italy; (3) Now this ‘‘app’’ and his grant which came from public money.

Has this little sh**head ever made any money that ‘‘didn’t’’ involve death somehow?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/15/amanda-knoxs-former-boyfriend-raffaele-sollecito-defends-social-network-for-graves

QUOTE:

Asked by the Local if he did not think that the enterprise was “a little morbid”, he said it was “innovative”.

“There’s no other service like this at the moment,” he said. “I think it’s a really sweet idea and a good way to remember the dead.”

He said he had come up with the idea after the death of his mother in 2005.

The 31-year-old and his former girlfriend Amanda Knox spent nearly four years in prison for the murder of Kercher before being cleared by Italy’s highest court last March.

He announced in January that he is seeking more than €500,000 – the maximum amount he could have asked for – in compensation for wrongful imprisonment.

Sollecito completed a degree in computer science through the University of Perugia while in prison in 2008.

He received a €66,000 grant from Puglia’s regional government for Memories, as well as some funding from his family “to cover small expenses”.

He began working on Memories in October 2014 and told the Local it would be online by the European spring.

Though people can sign up to Memories from anywhere in the world, it will only cover graves in Italy, says Sollecito, though he has ambitions of global expansion.

Posted by Chimera on 02/15/16 at 04:35 AM | #

He began in October 2010 and he has one page saying under construction in 2016.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/15/16 at 10:52 PM | #

Sorry: October 2014

Posted by JohnQ on 02/15/16 at 10:56 PM | #

I read Knox’s article. It would seem very strange that she compares her grandmother’s war experience with a very nebulous statement about how her ‘me me me’ persona was put off by another’s suffering but this is Knox. She’s rubbing the murder in our faces like she did with the gruesome fake rental note, the H.O.T. video, etc.

The one thing I did learn from it, after reading the comments, is that her famous, “My people killed your people!” remark was based on family history, as opposed to being a generalization. As such, it was all the more evil. I’m reminded of the picture of her pretending to use the machine gun with a gleeful, ecstatic look on her face. She is a less than mediocre writer and a sick piece of work.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/16/16 at 05:40 AM | #

Hi JohnQ, what did you mean by “like she did with the gruesome fake rental note”? I don’t know of that.  Thanks.

Posted by all4justice on 02/20/16 at 12:47 PM | #

Strange thing about the civilian mind set concerning Military personnel who have been involved in the actual horrors of warfare. Most civilians are squeamish about the necessity of eradicating an enemy by killing them. They deny the horrors of warfare by pretending that it does not exist, and yet civilians pay for the training and the arming of military personnel to keep them safe. Of course after soldiers are no longer members of any military organization they are generally ignored and even vilified for having taken part in saving any form of saving democracy.

Recently I was at a reunion quite close to Seattle, and sitting at a table among a group of perhaps thirty or so old soldiers the closes one asked me.
“What do you see?”
I said “I see a lot of old soldiers.”
The answer I got was as follows.
“Ah yes but I see far more than that. See him over there? He’s a weapons tech, or perhaps him, he used to teach unarmed combat, or those two who have served in several hot spots the world over.
There is a wealth of knowledge here from medics to drivers etc: But there is something far more important. Everybody you see, all highly trained in warfare and subversive operations are bored out of their mind. They need something to do.”

I said that was very true and very interesting. The point being that when old soldiers are put out to pasture all that training goes to waste. That is a shame and something should be done about it.
Any suggestions?

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/20/16 at 04:15 PM | #

Hi Grahame

Great story. I know many or most ex-military have a tough time. Here’s an idea that I think might provide them with a viable way forward.

You’d think from what comes out of Hollywood that all our great problems can only be solved by some perverse lone-wolf superhero maverick essentially working against great resistance and with no team or one that is very small.

In fact that is not at all how most real progress works. The two things that create all good change are (1) group-group-group and (2) “seeing” systems and how to adjust them or build new ones afresh.

Really huge and significant processes can be made to come alive, which would fit well with most purely military missions. The kind of thing totally lacking after Bush’s wonderful war in Iraq,

A massive lack throughout the world of people skilled and organized according to these two principles is the root cause of global growth slowing down. There is shockingly little of it going on though US corporations and some others are doing more than they did.

Ex military are already at least 50% down the road in each of them.

They have learned dozens of systems, including the personal skills part, and they are very used to doing things in groups.

“Civilianizing” those abilities could have them playing key roles in exciting processes in communities and corporations and so on that need to upgrade.

Do you know of any book or training that says anything like this? If not I sense a need. As to what to read first, I’d suggest this book as a “compulsory read”.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Business/dp/0062060244

Posted by Peter Quennell on 02/23/16 at 08:29 AM | #

Hello Peter

To begin with there is “The Art of War” by Sun Tzu. Not the one with all the Chinese input written by some general wishing elevate his personal stock but the original short 13 chapters. It’s very concise and compulsory reading for the officers of the Russian Armed forces. It’s compulsory reading by members of Mossad as well. Stay far away from books that extol the virtues of unarmed combat. That has so little to do with it and is a waste of time. It’s the mind set because if you have to stop to think about it then it’s too late. It’s like the NRA who believe when in doubt fire live rounds in all directions. In a situation such as that the first thing people think of is self preservation not firing back, or if they do then they will likely kill some innocent bystander.

The entire point of any military personnel is that if they are trained properly then a reaction against any aggression is automatic. This can take years of indoctrination and training. Not some weekend warrior nonsense where a group of civilians put on a uniform and imagine they are an elite force. People such as that get in the way and become casualties.

A case in point. In the US armed forces people are given a job to do and that is all they do. If they are designated as a driver then they do not fix the transmission or change the tires. If they are radio operators then they are not radio technicians. If a radio stops working then the person has to wait for a replacement part. We had to learn how to do it ourselves. It’s a matter of training.

I remember full well some years ago that a US company come over to train rappelling from helicopters for rapid deployment. They were allowed to lose two, or more, rifles a month. No lie.

Friends of mine in Afghanistan used to go out on patrol with ten Afghans. The Americans used to go out with two Afghans who they did not trust since they believed they knew the ground better than the locals. The US soldiers were ordered not to speak to our guys because if they did they would have found out just how bad their officers were. It’s not Saving Private Ryan.

The point I’m making is that it’s all to do with continuous training.

Speaking of Afghanistan my friend came across a US squad having R&R. They were all sitting down against this low wall. They had not even set up a perimeter or anything. My friend asked the officer in charge if he had looked over the wall. the answer was “no” He was invited to look.

On the other side wired together was about six or seven artillery shells. The only reason that they had not exploded, thereby killing all the American service personnel, was that our guys had just killed the terrorist who had been holding the cell phone all wired up to the shells.

You see it’s training and continuous training at that. When I did my basic training it took a year during which there was no leave. There was no graduation ceremony either. Even after that training never stopped. This kind of endeavor makes such a person as Steve Moore and his ilk a vast joke but then he tells civilians what they want to hear.

Years ago I was in Seattle staying on the base. We got to talk to the US service types who were going through their basic. For some reason we asked them about their training films. They told us (And I quote) “Oh anything out of Hollywood or anything with John Wayne or Lee Marvin in it.” No lie and they believed that this was real. Also according to what they had been told. Vietnam had been a strategic withdrawal. God help these kids when they actually got into combat where enemy action uses live rounds.

This is why the US kill rate (combat deaths) is higher than anybody else’s. I’m not saying that American service personal are any better or worse. But their training methods are crap. It’s crap because they tell their recruits that they are the best in the world and as such no harm can come to them. It’s crap because the enemy soldier on the other side of the hedge has been told the same thing.

It’s all training, so that you can react without thinking. It’s not written down either. People who believe that they can learn this out of books (all well meaning civilians who really don’t want to know) are really stupid. I remember getting into an argument with a psychiatrist. At one point I asked him if he had ever been in combat. His answer was indicative of the usual civilian mind set. He told me “No but I’ve read the books and seen the films.” I pointed out to him that I could hurt him very badly should I so choose. This had not occurred to him and he took it as a threat as indeed it was.

No it’s all about continuous training. I find it amusing and tragic that people such as Donald Trump would have no problem sending soldiers into harms way because they do not understand what happens afterwards. They do not understand PTSD for starters and that makes some politicians likely targets.

Finally as I have mentioned elsewhere “If there is a problem then fix it.” and fix it by any means at your disposal even if it takes personal sacrifice, or to repeat an old phrase “When planning revenge first dig two graves.”

Posted by Grahame Rhodes on 02/23/16 at 09:09 PM | #

Does someone have a link to the page showing 1. Sample of AK handwriting and 2. The fake rental note?

all4justice, The gruesome twosome left a fake rental note in a public place in Perugia after murdering Meredith (for her room). I’m sorry that I don’t have the link. It’s chilling. You have to see it to believe it.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/23/16 at 11:30 PM | #

Patou posted a direction to a copy of AK’s prank note on 05/07/10 at 06:29 PM In Pete’s “From The Book Darkness Descending: The Insights On Knox And Sollecito”

Posted by Cardiol MD on 02/24/16 at 02:09 AM | #

Thank you.

http://www.repubblica.it/2007/11/sezioni/cronaca/perugia-uccisa/autopsia/autopsia.html

Posted by JohnQ on 02/24/16 at 07:49 AM | #

Cardiol MD, you said “Will Italy correct this corrupt failure”? From today’s paper http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/12170557/Italy-condemned-for-role-in-CIA-rendition-plot.html

Italy condemned for role in CIA rendition plot

ECHR rules Italy complict in Abu Omar extraordinary rendition, orders £80,000 compensation

“While Italy’s courts ordered the U.S. nationals to pay one million euros to Mr Nasr and 500,000 euros to his wife, the “applicants have received no compensation to date, nor have Italian authorities sought the extradition of the convicted US nationals,” said the report.

In fact, presidential pardons have been issued to several of those convicted, including the U.S. Army officer and former Milan CIA station chief Robert Seldon Lady, who in 2009 was sentenced to eight years in prison for his lead role in the operation.

Mr Seldon Lady was pardoned by Italian President Sergio Mattarella in December 2015. “The investigation and trial had not led to the punishment of those responsible, who had therefore ultimately been granted impunity,” the ECHR report added.”

Posted by Ergon on 02/24/16 at 08:17 AM | #

There’s a copy of Knox’s handwriting in “Focus In Italy Now On Knox Psychology As Her Claims Meet With Skepticism, Lack Any Proof”
Posted by Miriam on 05/28/13 at 05:00 PM

Posted by Cardiol MD on 02/24/16 at 10:24 AM | #

Will Italy…?

Signs point to No.

Posted by JohnQ on 02/27/16 at 08:52 AM | #

Selvaggia Lucarelli has jsut posted another satire of RS. Translation follows from Catnip if he is available (or offers welcome!) in a new post.

http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2016/04/05/raffaele-sollecito-diventa-commentatore-di-delitti-in-tv-su-tgcom24-prossima-tappa-laffilatore-di-coltelli/2609527/

Posted by Peter Quennell on 04/05/16 at 09:22 AM | #


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