Thursday, January 18, 2018

Interrogation Hoax #20: Illustrating How Batshit Crazy The Knox Interrogation Hoax Has Become

Posted by The TJMK Main Posters

Knox again making things up, despite vast evidence and her defense team to contrary

1. From Impeccable Police Process…

Click here for the overview of this huge series.

We are coming full circle now, with new translations showing what happened at the very start, from the day Meredith’s body was found, to the day of RS’s and AK’s arrests.

In those days Knox and Sollecito provided information about possible perpetrators in four relatively brief sessions with investigators in the central police station, and they signed the written records on every page.

It is pretty obvious from those signed depositions why no court believed Knox was forced to frame an innocent man.

Even Knox’s own defense team did not believe the hoax (yes she actually had one, though hoaxers leave this awkward fact aside). Though it took us some time to translate it all, some of that stark evidence against Knox has been available in English for years.

And yet it could be quicker to list here who among the Knox apologists HASN’T put this hoax on steroids than who has.

2. To Interrogation Hoax On Steroids

This is from a hyped keynote presentation to a New York conference of senior government justice officials from all over the world.  It mentioned no original sources as proof and was not peer-reviewed. No attempt has ever been made to set the record right. The 37 untrue statements are rebutted in Part 3 below.

Meredith Kercher was found raped [untrue] and murdered in Perugia, Italy. Almost immediately [untrue] police suspected 20-year-old Amanda Knox [untrue], an American student and one of Kercher’s roommates—the only one who stayed in Perugia after the murder [untrue]. Knox had no history of crime [untrue] or violence and no motive [untrue].

But something about her demeanor [untrue] such as an apparent lack of affect [untrue], an outburst of sobbing [untrue], or her girlish and immature behavior [untrue] led police to believe [untrue] she was involved and lying, when she claimed she was with Raffaele Sollecito, her new Italian boyfriend, that night [untrue]. 

Armed with a prejudgment of Knox’s guilt [untrue] several police officials interrogated [untrue] the girl on and off for four days [untrue]. Her final interrogation started on November 5 at 10 p.m. [untrue] and lasted until November 6 at 6 a.m [untrue] during which time she was alone, without an attorney, tag-teamed by a dozen police [untrue] and did not break for food [untrue] or sleep [untrue].

In many ways, Knox was a vulnerable suspect—young, far from home, without family, and forced to speak in a language [untrue] in which she was not fluent. Knox says she was repeatedly threatened [untrue] and called a liar [untrue]. She was told [untrue], falsely [untrue], that Sollecito, her boyfriend, disavowed her alibi and that physical evidence placed her at the scene [untrue].

Despite a law that mandates the recording of interrogations, police and prosecutors maintain that these sessions were not recorded [untrue]. 

Police had failed to provide Knox with an attorney [untrue] or record the interrogations [untrue] so all the confessions [untrue] attributed to her were ruled inadmissible in court [untrue].

Still, the damage was done [untrue]. The confession [untrue] set into motion a hypothesis-confirming investigation [untrue], prosecution, and conviction….

It is now clear that the proverbial mountain of discredited [untrue] evidence used to convict Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito was nothing but a house of cards [untrue] built upon a false confession [untrue].

3. And Pesky Hard Facts

Neither Knox’s own lawyers nor any court ever believed Knox’s fluctuating versions of what happened on 5-6 November 2007 to make her frame Patrick for murder and maintain that for 2 weeks.

Only a guilty person would let such claims stand. All courts saw that and so Knox is a convicted felon for life. She served three years for the malicious accusation, and she still owes the victim $100,000.

Below, how to destroy the hoax in 12 points.  See further our extremely detailed 20-part series on Knox’s interrogation hoax (via the link in our right column) with numerous translations as proof.

1. Police provably kept open minds, and did not immediately suspect Knox though her odd behaviors were hard to miss, or treat her differently than others with possible useful facts.

2. She was not the only one with possible useful facts told to stay in Perugia for several days; others were told they might be needed again; no others complained.

3. There is no documented investigator prejudgement of guilt, even at her fourth and final quite short session on 5 Nov when the subject was provably once again listing more visitors to the house.

4. She was never tag-teamed by a dozen police, and she signed every page of all four session reports which named the mere several officers who were there.

5. There was no 50 or more hours of sessions. No session lasted from 10:00 pm to 6:00 am. All four of her sessions over 4 days combined may not have exceeded that length of time.

6. The fourth and final session on 5-6 Nov was unplanned, and when she turned up late on 5 Nov and was told to go get some sleep, she insisted she wanted to remain.

7. All four sessions were recorded and she signed. She was never threatened or called a liar; her conniption when shown a text message on 5-6 Nov happened spontaneously and very fast.

8. On 5-6 Nov 2007 Sollecito also u-turned - and blamed Knox! No tag-team there. Knox never confessed; she made a false charge of murder against someone else, allowed to stand for several weeks.

9. She did not simply claim she was with Sollecito that night; under no pressure she repeated several times in writing that she went out and all courts allowed that. Sollecito said she did too.

10. After she broke she was told several times she should not talk further without an attorney. No questions were asked of her after that but she pressed on.

11. She had a translator at all four sessions, though she herself chose to speak in Italian now and then. She made and handed over notes in Italian.

12. At trial she confirmed she was provided with refreshments and helped to get some sleep. She was never refused bathroom breaks and confirmed she was not hit.

4. In Conclusion

This hoax is a money-tree for Knox. A blood-money tree. Act the real victim, shake the tree, and tens of thousands fall out. Knox is to blame, but far from the only one. Most of the hoaxers are trying to shake their own money-trees too. Knox’s speaker agency and her PR and lawyers and publishers all want a big payday. Huge sums are at stake.

Can the hoax survive?  Probably not for long. It needed a 100% rebuttal which finally we have achieved now. And it needs Knox’s confidence and her credibility. Even one disbelieving voice from the audience could show the world that the empress has no clothes.




Comments

Really disheartening that someone from this side cannot be present at Roanoke to counterbalance with pertinent information and questions.  As it stands, things will be very one sided.

Posted by CBHeidegger on 01/19/18 at 01:12 PM | #

Added saturday:

We are now hearing of Staff Wars or at least staff tension at Roanoke over putting the college’s reputation at risk so foolishly.

See a new comment below describing a first action taken in light of that.

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/interrogation_hoax_20_illustrating_how_batshit_crazy_1/#c27234

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/19/18 at 01:46 PM | #

Any chance anyone here can attend Roanoke?  Or is it pre-screened audience?

How is it possible that no one has publicly called out her bullshit?  She’s done 40+ interviews and seminars

Posted by Chimera on 01/20/18 at 01:45 AM | #

Hi Chimera

Everything online on Roanoke suggests that both the film showing and the panel are open to all comers. That may be a first, previous panels were for closed groups. 

Any student or non-student who would like costs covered for being there, please do be in touch by email? A report for posting would be nice, same with an effective interjection, same with a handing out of pamphlets - even simple pointers to the current front page which may remain the same through next wednesday. 

We did have very effective presences at some of the RS and AK book promotion sessions, and we brought some of the TV interviewers up to speed pretty effectively.

This for example resulted in ABC’s Katie Couric turning her back on Sollecito after some sharp questions and refusing to say goodbye to him. 

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/powerpoints_18_katie_couric_interviews_raffaele_sollecito/
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/katie_couric_how_to_push_back_against_sollecitos_narcissistic_bluster_/

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/20/18 at 03:06 AM | #

Remember when Pepperdine University actually did some due diligence?

They abruptly fired the Knoxaholic campus cop Steve Moore, and frogmarched him off their campus.

Think about it, Roanoke…

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/20/18 at 03:24 AM | #

Indeed, Chimera, ‘how is it possible’.  God knows.

AK’s little girl lost voice really reminds me of Judy Garland in Wizard of Oz.

Particularly when she says “we know”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U016JWYUDdQ

Posted by DavidB on 01/20/18 at 06:50 AM | #

In each one of these cases of Knox exposure there has proved to be a central pro-Knox fanatic.

Saul Kassin quoted in the post above is an obvious one. They lose all judgment, and create risky situations for those around them. Discover who they are and we are a long way to throwing a wrench in the machines they create.

They are not hard to discover - email a few others (such as Roanoke staff) who find they have something riding on these Knox exposures and dont favor stirring anti-Italy bigotry, and the angry tips start flowing. Angry tips from colleagues is how we found out about this other professor:

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/The_Academic_Fraud_By_Martha_Grace_Duncan/

She also did no due diligence before putting the reputation of the college at risk and involving dozens of her students in fake research and in her case widely promoting a dishonest paper.

In this Roanoke case tips from other angry staff are suggesting that the central fanatic may be one Tanya Ridpath.  Here is her profile and image and the email address, to which I’ve sent the email quoted for starters.

https://directory.roanoke.edu/faculty?username=ridpath

Dear Ms Ridpath

Other Roanoke staff are blaming you for this fiasco and for putting the good name of the college at risk. Does that seem fair?

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/interrogation_hoax_20_illustrating_how_batshit_crazy_1/

Please let us know if otherwise? Best regards.

Peter Quennell

TJMK NYC

Below, read Ms Ridpath’s bizarre sign (click for larger)


Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/20/18 at 02:26 PM | #

Did Ms Ridpath create an own-goal for herself or the college? Suspicious minds might think Knox was actually invited as a welcome distraction:

(1) David Hall, the editor of the student paper, was fired “for gross incompetence” early in December and the paper’s site has carried nothing new since.

http://brackety-ack.pages.roanoke.edu/

(2) Also early in December Leah Weinstein, the president of the students’ association, was ousted in a “bloodless coup”.

http://brackety-ack.pages.roanoke.edu/2017/12/08/sga-president-ousted-in-nonviolent-bloodless-coup/

(3) There is also an ongoing on-campus sexual assault case.

http://wric.com/2018/01/11/new-trial-ordered-in-roanoke-college-sexual-assault-case/

(4) And also the Fitness Professor was fired and charged with opiods possession.

http://wset.com/news/local/roanoke-college-coach-facing-possession-of-cocaine-steroid-charges

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/20/18 at 04:06 PM | #

@Peter Quennell:  Very interesting indeed.  Also, I’m glad to hear there is at least some conflict among the college staff, because earlier I read an article announcing the January 24 evening event and it was being plugged as a wrongful conviction/to full exoneration celebrity event, complete with invitation to buy Knox’s book and get her autograph! :o. It had nearly 700 social media shares.

Posted by CBHeidegger on 01/20/18 at 04:59 PM | #

The latest, Monday at noon. 

Apparently much head-scratching and recrimination at Roanoke thanks to some great warnings that those here have sent to raise the heat. I could see still Knox appearing but it could be a skeptical or hostile audience Knox encounters there.

It could be her last. She is actively committing hate crimes with these demonizing lie-filled speeches. As a direct result stalking and threats in Perugia have been on the up and up. Several crazies have lunged at Mignini, and the Carabinieri is ordered to keep a sharper eye out for guns.

What if someone dies? The mafias will like that, but Roanoke and Knox and Marriott and Knox’s family and Fischer and Moore and Heavey could all be charged with incitement at least.

This has become a very very very dangerous game. Roanoke’s legal counsel is Michael Pace and we wrote to him to rub in Roanoke’s risks.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/22/18 at 02:38 PM | #

I emailed the Roanoke College last week and included a link to Wiki site.  And I will be doing so again tomorrow, with a couple of phone calls for good measure. 

I will once again make a friendly request for a fair and truth-based presentation encouraging everyone present to be allowed question the speaker. 

U.S. institutions of learning should operate all events based on full disclosure.  We cannot let this opportunity for truth pass us by.

Posted by whatswisdom on 01/23/18 at 12:50 AM | #

Hi whatswisdom

Well done. Similar emails by others were sent. Several of our lawyers wrote.

This has the sense of a put up or shut up time. Enough is enough. Knox has been hoaxing good people for far too long. Its like a cancer. There is no positive aspect to what she is doing.

In the whole saga over more than ten years only two in the huge cast picked up on doubting vibes that had them in a heartbeat degenerating into slobbering messes.

One was Doug Preston and the other was Knox. I dont see how Roanoke’s legal counsel can let this go forward. Charges for hosting incitement of unstable pro-Knoxers could kill the school.

If Knox does pick up such vibes on arrival in Salem she may skip out. Looking forward to any reports.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/23/18 at 01:45 AM | #

I think everybody reading realizes that the zombie Interrogation Hoax is at the very heart of all Knox’s paid gigs? Take that away and she has very little to say - and vast areas (like the DNA) to avoid.

Roanoke may have been more easily duped because they did not go first. However they are the first university to buy Knox as a whole.

Only one college faculty (in Chicago) had hosted Knox before. The other gigs were lawyer groups, and most realised after the fact that they had been conned.

This post #20 above was not timed to coincide with the Roanoke paid gig, but it is timely in showing in a brief way how misleading the hoax is.

(There are over 30 other hoaxes that Knox & Sollecito and their enablers have tried hard - and repeatedly failed - to make fly. Nothing like a new audience to have another go, though.)

During her legal process (which would have finished fast if the 2011 appeal court had not been bent) Knox did not fail to make the Interrogation Hoax fly just the once, at trial in 2009.

In fact she tried at least TEN TIMES with tweaks here and there. The next post on Wednesday will describe all of these.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/23/18 at 11:12 AM | #

11th hour but I emailed Ms. Ridpath today 1/23/18. Also sent e to Roanoke PR office.

Knox is a disgrace to students everywhere.

She killed a brilliant student, she flopped out of her own studies, derailed student Sollecito from his studies and should not be allowed a platform to sway any good student body.

I hope Roanoke alerts people who will question Knox and rebut her thin claims.

Posted by Hopeful on 01/23/18 at 01:41 PM | #

Hi Hopeful

Maybe yours was the straw that broke the camels back. It’s announced that contrary to an earlier notice from Roanoke, Knox will no longer appear tonight at the showing of the very dishonest Netflix report.

Netflix made 5 out of every 6 online reviewers suspect that Italy had been at fault somehow. But far fewer emerged with any liking or trust for Knox herself and some said they actively disliked her.

She inhabits a shrinking island. But I would have expected her to drag at minimum those befuddled ex-FBI dodos and the ex-judge in the early stages of dementia. Tough call though, given these onstage fiascoes.

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/the_seattle_university_panel_some_of_the_ways_in_which_steve_moore/

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/to_create_points_with_more_traction_for_his_yawnfests_mr_heavey_convenes/

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/23/18 at 05:25 PM | #

Am I reading this right?  Roanoke called it off?

Happy news indeed.

But sadly there will still be other dupes…..

Posted by Chimera on 01/24/18 at 01:14 AM | #

Sorry, that was unclear. Knox appearance at the Netflix showing Tuesday night was seemingly cancelled. The Wednesday night presentation is seemingly still on.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/24/18 at 08:04 AM | #

For what it’s worth, I emailed Ms Ridpath too, trying to appeal to her to accept that there is another narrative worth exploring beyond the mendacious stream of victim speak that erupts from Knox on a regular basis.

I don’t expect a reply but if I get one, I’ll copy and paste it into a comment on here.

Posted by davidmulhern on 01/24/18 at 09:30 AM | #

Well let’s guess: Knox’s meeting with the college staff and whoever sits with her on the stage will be an awkward affair.

We may not have fully turned them yet - but my guess is a flustered and unconvincing Knox will do that.

Roanoke really should run a panel now. You know, one focused on the truth.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/24/18 at 10:44 AM | #

For our record this was the breaking news box of the past few days on the Knox talk at Roanoke.

Breaking news. Hoaxers have apparently poisoned Roanoke College minds. So professional promoter of bigotry Amanda Knox will once again be inciting hate-crimes against many in Italy with numerous false claims. Angry staff tell us it’s mafia tool Tanya Ridpath putting Roanoke’s good reputation and Perugia lives at risk. Roanoke’s counsel is informed.

Posted by Peter Quennell on 01/24/18 at 12:37 PM | #


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