Tuesday, August 19, 2014
Fine Report On One Of Numerous Cases Much Harder To Explain Than Poor Meredith’s
Posted by Our Main Posters
This concerns a strange case in Iceland.
Please click on the image above and then scroll down, for a smart presentation by the BBC.
It shows how difficult police work can be, and how there really can be false confessions. Unfortunately, police work is not helped when there are false claims to false confessions.
The 2009 trial transcripts show that Knox was definitely not pressed (in less than two hours, during which she was mostly making a list of seven possible leads) into a false confession (actually a false accusation of Patrick) like the examples here.
The capital of Iceland, Reykjavik, is to the west (in the position of eight o’clock on a map of Iceland) and the peninsula here is south-west of Reykjavik, in the United States direction.
The BBC is a regular peruser of TJMK. To their great credit they recently aired the excellent, highly objective documentary by Andreas Vogt and Paul Russell on Meredith’s case.
Posted by Our Main Posters on 08/19/14 at 01:36 PM in
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Sharp eyes Babushka! Amazing story.
We have posted before on some strange cases where people who one wouldnt predict commit crimes for motives which one wouldnt predict. Not so uncommon.
http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C376/
http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C475/
Smart production in this report by the BBC with the text and images scrolling separately. Lets hope the BBC doesnt get in its head to steal the mighty Powerpoint creator Kermit.
Kermit along with James Raper and Nicki has created a fine series of dynamic Powerpoints (now at 18) that visually have led to thousands of readers’ breakthroughs of a grasp on the key facts.
This below is the flagship Powerppoint of TJMK by James Raper with Kermit describing all the house evidence which took months of work to get right.
All of our Powerpoints - fifteen involving Kermit, one of them with James, and two by Nicki, and one by Fly By Night - can be found here:
http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C460/
http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C461/
Posted by Peter Quennell on 08/19/14 at 02:07 PM | #
We are told the real confessions to crimes vastly outnumber the false ones. Those who do certain crimes seem to have a real urge to share. SeekingUnderstanding and Hopeful often talk about this.
Mignini thinks Knox came very close to sharing, and wanted to, and had she done so, the charges could have been lighter and the history of the past six-plus years quite different.
Mignini’s version, with which Meredith’s family seem to have some acceptance, is that only insecurity-fueled hazing and sexual humiliation was intended, up to the final seconds, and even then RS and Guede never bought in and have in effect grumbled ever since.
Knox’s defense might have gone there too if allowed to. They had a tough time holding her back in the spinning of more and more tales. As with Sollecito her book painted a big target on her back.
She is not prone to sticking to scripts it seems. Her lawyers flew to Seattle late last year before the Florence appeal, we now believe to get her to memorize a script and encourage her to appear in court as Sollecito did with no obvious nervousness.
I would have loved to have seen the Italian lawyers’ faces when the weird Knox email to Judge Nencini arrived. Ghirga looked like he was carrying dog-poop at arms length when he handed it to Judge Nencini.
Here via Johnny Yen is someone you may be reading about who is being compared to Amanda Knox by a lawyer, apparently in an effort to help her.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 08/19/14 at 06:57 PM | #
Thank you Peter. There are so many similarities between Heather Mack and Amanda Knox. Both killed someone close to them in a foreign country. Both used boytoys to help commit the murders. Both called someone else besides the police afterwards. Both egregiously lied to the police. And, of course, both are young, somewhat attractive American women. So much for the FOAKers’ lie that that never happens. Chelsea Hoffman has also written about these similarities:
Heather Mack compared to Amanda Knox
Posted on August 17, 2014 by Chelsea Hoffman via Crime Scene Media
Heather Mack, 19, is suspected in the beating mother of her mother Sheila von Weise Mack, and has been in custody in Indonesia since her body was found stuffed in a suitcase. She and her boyfriend are accused of beating the woman to death—and she faces the death penalty by firing squad. That’s the story in a nutshell, and really should be as cut-and-dry as that. However, Mack’s Chicago lawyer Micahel D. Elkin is now comparing the accused killer to Amanda Knox, who as everyone knows has been convicted of murder.
Is this going to be the next trend in dealing with female killers—comparing them to Amanda Knox in hopes of convincing people that they’re innocent? If Elkin wanted to take a page out of the Knox playbook he’d hire a PR firm and work on Heather’s public image here in the states beyond simply comparing her to someone that is most likely actually guilty of murder.
Posted by Johnny Yen on 08/21/14 at 02:26 PM | #
I see Amanda Knox has latched on to the Reykjavik Confessions and is linking to them on her Twitter account. I very much doubt she would ever have been aware of this case unless she looks daily on TJMK.
With regards to the hazing gone wrong theory, I would be more inclined to give Knox the benefit of the doubt had she not turned her cell phone off and bought a stinking great big knife along to the party with her.
Posted by MHILL4 on 08/27/14 at 09:18 PM | #
She is counting on a lot of people being rather stupid - if they do not recognize the difference between a false confession and a false accusation.
People making the former would then expect to be arrested. People making the latter would expect (hope) to wriggle free.
Posted by SeekingUnderstanding on 08/27/14 at 09:30 PM | #
Right. The Icelanders pointed to themselves; Knox didnt, she pointed to another - in fact, many others. This post was a sort of trap, we wondered if she would take the bait and not see or explain the difference.
The ex-FBI “profilers” she ties herself to here will give her no help in the long run. Kasssin and Douglas and Clemente had no idea of the extremely vicious and prolonged nature of the attack (it was described in court only behind closed doors). The Italian police and other real crime experts correctly saw all the familiar signs of a hate attack fueled by anger and jealousy. Burglar attacks look quite different.
Lying about the “interrogation” is her worst achilles heel. The State Department, none too thrilled at the Knox-Mellas hijacking of US foreign policy toward a key ally, is aware that she lied, and will do nothing to stop her extradition or further court proceedings against her for her serial false accusations.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 08/27/14 at 09:44 PM | #
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