Why Does Knox Book So Stridently Smear Italian Officials?

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Regarding Curt Knox “one more once.”
One of the facts that he does not smile is because he knows damn well that his daughter conned him once again.

“Come on dad I’m twenty. I’m a grown woman. I can take care of myself and Parugia has a wonderful university”

And Curt swallowed it hook line and sinker. He knows he’s been conned and he knows Amanda Is guilty but the huge joke on him is that he can do nothing about it.

Knox sure didn’t relate any of this in court when she had the opportunity.  Here’s what she said in court:

“I knew [Patrick] was in prison uniquely because of my words. At first I didn’t know this. I thought the police somehow knew whether he was guilty or not. Since I didn’t know, I was confused. But in the following days I realized that he was in prison only because of what I had said, and I felt guilty.”

It doesn’t get much plainer than that. She knew that her accusation of murder sent Patrick to prison yet she had no intention of admitting her lies to the authorities. 

There’s more:

Carlo Pacelli, for Patrick, asks:  “I mean about the fact that Patrick had nothing to do with the crime and was in prison because of you. As you yourself said. Who did you tell besides your mother?”

Knox’s reply:  “I also told my lawyers.”

There should never be any argument about the precision with which Knox explained in open court that she knew her accusations led straight to Patrick’s arrest and imprisonment.  There’s no confusion.  She knew exactly what she had done, when she did it, and to whom.

Did this discussion with Mignini even take place?

That’s kind of what I’m asking too, Vivianna.  The account in her book is wildly different than the account in her court testimony.  They can’t both possibly be true (and it’s probable that neither one is).

Hi Vivianna

No never. As the post says Mignini was not even there. Like the charge against Patrick (think of this as Calunnia Part Deux) its fully and maliciously invented and about as serious.

However Knox has claimed dozens of times (in her book, on TV, in her email to Judge Nencini, presumably to the ECHR) that the claim of pressure is true. She even said at trial Mignini leaned on her and withdrew instantly when told he was not there.

The Interrogation Hoax series quoting trial transcripts makes quite clear what did happen. Added to the post above at the end now is a running summary from that series.

We have posted this invention about Mignini twice addressed to Knox to provoke her into renouncing it definitively.

Steve Moore claimed it (his tag teams), Heavey claimed it, Sforza claimed it, Fischer claimed it, Saul Kassin claimed it, Preston claimed it, Douglas claimed it and Clemente claimed it. Dozens of reporters and bloggers (Basile for example) repeat it as gospel. The PR shills Dempsey and Burleigh claimed it was true.

Needed once and for all is a proactive renouncing of the claim by a heavy hitter, an adult who tells the children to shut up and stop repeating it.

Since Senator Cantwell chilled on Knox support, there are only a few heavy hitters - adults - in the entire Knox entourage, these major-league book agents and publishers, who have major legal liability and can lean on Knox and the crazies.

Hence the challenge.

There was indeed one (fairly) unfettered interrogation by Mignini of Knox but it was polite and fair and in front of Knox’s lawyers. It happened later, at Capanne Prison, on 17 December 2007.

We havent got to posting the transcript of that in the Interrogation Hoax series yet, because there are a few pages (of about 100) still to translate.

There was also a “fettered” examination of Knox on the witness stand in July 2009 in part by Mignini with a lot of ground rules and defense interruptions which Stilicho quotes from re Patrick. Knox couldnt back up her claims of pressure and so she served the three years. Even Hellmann didnt believe her.

Knox vilifies Mignini to save her own guilty self. Thank you for this powerful defense of him.

I often wonder whether she really believed that her endless lies will pass as truth?

I also wonder how her lawyers manage to represent her through these lies. They must be laughing their way to the bank!

More seriously, as Peter pointed out above, what happened to the adults in the party? Are they too enjoying the drama? And thrown her to the wolves?

In the early days I thought that being an American, she will simply get away. Now I know better. Most people don’t like being taken for a ride.

@chami
Perhaps because she lacks the ability (as she has demonstrated) to empathize, and understand and feel something from another’s point of view…she also lacks the ability to ‘read’ people with any accuracy?
Which could be why she ploughs on with her preposterous ‘versions’, unaware that others -especially those with emotional intelligence - will be able to see straight through them.
Her motives are as transparent as a two year old’s.

Makes one wonder about those promoting and propagating her lies though. Where are they coming from? Or does desire for money blind?

Poor Mr. Burnham got taken in by the lying scoundrel Knox and as her phone logs are coming out in full now thanks to Nell who’s a site admin over at PMF.net the duplicity of Knox will be all the more clear. HarperCollins will wish they’d never heard of Knox, as many do.

It seems the Knox phone and text records that Fisher at IIP pretended to release were redacted so that guys like PJ and Bruno and texts to other men were kept hidden on purpose. Then IIP insulted Nell as having lifted their own work. She did nothing of the sort and worked from public records putting together much information all true about Knox. Her careful investigating deserves kudos while IIP’s was a shifty trick much like Knox uses, hiding the worst and lying by omission.

@SeekingUnderstanding, thanks for your link to the British medical students stabbed by Malaysian no-goods high on crystal meth. I read that this morning and told my son about it. It’s an absolute tragedy. What a dreadful loss. Bright young minds like these doctors in training are the hope of our society and few and far between. It’s a terrible loss, we need good doctors.

Thank you for clarifying, Peter.  As far as I could remember, Mignini came in that night when she gave the voluntary statement, but he didn’t ask her any questions.  It’s hard to understand why she lies about things which can be easily verified.

Regarding her publishers, I don’t feel an ounce of compassion for them and I find it extremely difficult to believe that they were duped.  They had a legal department advising them, so it’s not like they didn’t know what they were getting into. 

They mistakenly believed that she was marketable and underestimated both the opposition to her book and the patience of the Italian authorities.  Other publishers wisely refused to have anything to do with Knox, presumably after researching the case and concluding that they would be supporting a liar and a murderer.  It’s rather comforting to see that some were able to put morals ahead of profit, although they must have also correctly anticipated that the book would bomb.

I’ve written a guest blog article about the guerrilla PR campaign and the Twitter images for Justice4ever:

http://justice4ever.com/2014/08/amanda-knox-harry-rag-explains-media-image-campaign/#more-2257

Please tweet. Thanks.

@Vivianna on 08/08/14 at 01:11 AM:

“It’s hard to understand why she lies about things which can be easily verified.”, or exposed?

Heather Mills, “Lady-Mills” Paul MaCartney’s recent-wife has done it all her life.

Why? To her they aren’t lies. Like AK’s they’re her bestest truths?

In one of my psychology books, it explains that for a certain type of person who lies - the lie is not necessarily tied to (perceived) self-advantage….that is, they don’t just lie in their own interest.

Some people lie simply because they can. It’s their MO. Some enjoy their ability to deceive, to cause chaos, and consequent distress. It is referred to as ‘duping delight’.

It’s hard for people who spend their lives creating - or trying to create- order, fairness and harmony in society to really grasp sometimes - there’s no reason : they are like that.

A similar scenario can exist with some people who steal, who are ‘light-fingered’, or kleptomaniac. They may not have any real need for what they take - they take it because they can.

It’s a compulsion that - very temporarily - relieves a certain psychological tension in them, when they have the thing in their hands.

Including money. How much money do people really, really need? It’s a kind of ‘scoring’ (double entendre not intended!). But it will never relieve the source of their deep-seated insecurities.

Reasonable people keep looking for reasons. Unreasonable people have different wiring.

@SeekingUnderstanding

Your post reminded me of two famous characters that I read about when I was younger. Cathy, of East of Eden and Rebecca, by Daphne du Maurier.

But then there is a difference between these monsters and Amanda. Amanda is real and one of us. Just look at the number of her virtual supporters!

One of my students, suffering from some psychological problems, tells lies fluently but randomly. And it takes me days to discover. If I confront her, she covers up with another. Otherwise she is a rather decent human being, I think. But then I know too little.

Some circuit in the brain has gone wrong. Somehow.

@Seekingunderstanding

” It’s a kind of ‘scoring’ (double entendre not intended!). But it will never relieve the source of their deep-seated insecurities.”

Very well said, thank you.

Hi, Vivianna, SeekingUnderstanding, Cardiol excellent discussion about lying, perhaps I could shed some light on this based on very own experience of growing up, I am not proud of it, but I used to lie a lot when I was a small child.

I don’t know why I did it, but I did, perhaps to escape an imaginary punishment, or perhaps I was enjoying setting people on the wrong track, I don’t remember anymore, or maybe I don’t want to remember, I will probably have to deal with it if I haven’t already.

What I want to say, though, is that my father (a busy engineer) took time and did his utmost to show me how useless lying was, he put a lot of effort into finding out what really had been going on, and confronting me with it. He always ended with “See, I’m always going to find out, why are you lying?”.

I don’t remember when I stopped, if I don’t lie anymore it is thanks to him, I am not a perfect human being, but it is my father who saved me from that hell. So, my father lives through me and he is not the only one (my mother showed me how even a small sacrifice can make a difference, she is still alive), I am not who I think I may be, so many others had a hand in it.

If Amanda Knox lies and does other things, first and foremost she has her parents to thank for *not* seeing and correcting her wickedness, why do you have a child if you cannot show her what’s good and what isn’t? She could have been a good person with some guidance and love, but she isn’t, and the world is now stuck with the evil litter of Curt Knox & Edda Mellas. Amanda Knox lies because she lies, there is a good chance that pretty much everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie, and unfortunately we have to look no further than Curt & Edda.

Thank you for sharing your personal experience, Bjorn, and being honest.

Of course, a perfect person does not exist - and how many people would be happier if this were acknowledged? If parents can acknowledge to their children that they themselves are not perfect either, it helps everybody. They can show it is trying to be good that matters. Not covering up and pretending to be good.

Lying is a form of pretending. Sometimes children do it, as you suggest, to see the effect. But then we learn, and grow up. Some just don’t.  We need to be able to recognize these ones for everyone’s safety.

Yes, it is for parents to educate about right and wrong, and if they are really good and conscientious parents they also try to show or explore why things are right or wrong - in different contexts, too.

Not everyone is fortunate to have such parents, but even then the growing child can find a teacher or such for a model. One just needs to think of some of the appalling adversity that some people do transcend.

I have often wondered when AK’s lying started - and was not corrected. Was this part of Edda’s encouraging a ‘free spirit’, as Amanda said?

I think of it as the ‘Whatever’ attitude, you probably know what I mean…  ‘Maybe it’s true, or there again maybe not…whatever!’

In fact didn’t AK say that more than once during interviews?

Is a consensus emerging?

The SocioPsychopaths among us do know whether their falsehoods and deceptions are lies?

Don’t they just delight in the attention they command?

@ Cardiol MD

“Don’t they just delight in the attention they command?”

I think so - absolutely right. They feel they have to command attention, therein is the rub. Most normal people are very happy to get some attention when due but learn very early that it can’t be commanded (au contraire). We all intuitively and immediately recognise someone in a group who really stands out, precisely because they don’t insist on attention.

This will always be news for loud and obnoxious single-chord guitar pickers with a strangely decreasing number of real friends.

Where next:

Or to next entry Powerful Evidence Of Knox’s Presence Locked Inside Meredith’s Room

Or to previous entry Knox Frequently Smears Others On Drug Use, Severely Understates Her Own