Friday, July 18, 2014
Seeds Of Betrayal: Multiple Examples Of How RS And AK Have Stabbed Each Other In The Back
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RS in Feb 2014 after Nencini-appeal guilty verdict
1. History Of Backstabbing #1 2007-2014
The other day, a claim was posted that claimed sources had said Knox would soon accuse Sollecito.
This inspired quite an outcry, and the claim’s heavy-handed suppression. Can you believe: by legal means? That claim really rattled a few cages.
Why was the claim so dangerous?
NOT because the claim was wrong. In fact because for seven-plus years Sollecito and Knox have repeatedly cycled between very occasional chummy hugs and very numerous aggrieved stabs in the back.
And for the most part the more-aggrieved Sollecito has come out ahead. The desperate Knox PR and apologists are simply stumped at how to stop him or how to explain all of this.
2. Phases And Kinds Of Backstabbing
We are now seeing the fourth phase.
- In 2007 (see below) Sollecito really damaged Knox’s situation and both stabbed the other in the back a lot.
- From 2008 right through 2011, desperate for confirmation of an alibi, an anxious Knox beamed pleas at a sullen Sollecito, for example in public “love letters” she wrote, and a public request to have a private chat.
- From 2012 upon provisional release it was now Knox being sullen, and hard to get. Now it was Sollecito in puppy-dog mode. He might have been driven by a genuine desire for a renewed relationship, but a highly publicised bid to set himself up safely in the US maybe made Knox wonder “Is this was true love?”.
- And from mid 2013 mutual knifings have been fast and furious, many now on Twitter, and Italy in particular is closely watching the show and waits agog as the justice system applies further heat.
The backstabbings break down into two varieties: (1) many are active-aggressive (as in: they actually complain about one another); (2) others were passive-aggressive (as in: they try to help themselves but conspicuously ignore the other.) Typically Sollecito’s aggression dominates over Knox’s.
3. Incidences Year By Year
1. The year 2007
Our emerging Interrogation Hoax series quotes multiple witnesses testifying how quickly and decisively Knox and Sollecito in the blink of an eye began dropping the other in it. Posts of relevance soon to be linked-to here.
From 6 November 2007 Knox and Sollecito were kept separated, and were not allowed to talk. (That continued to late 2011.) Sollecito was pretty easy to read: he had little interest in talk. A sulky silence was his norm.
1 Click for Post: Officer Moscatelli’s Recap/Summary Session With Sollecito 5-6 No
On 6 November Sollecito’s statement to Inspectors Moscatelli and Napoleoni included this about Knox :
I know Amanda for two weeks. From the evening I first met her she started sleeping at my house.
The first of November I woke up about 11.00, I had breakfast with Amanda, then she went out and I went back to bed. I then met up with her at her house around 13.00-14.00. In there was Meredith who left in a hurry about 16.00 without saying where she was going.
Amanda and I went to the [town] centre about 18.00 but I don’t remember what we did. We remained in the centre till 20.30 or 21.00.
I went to my house alone at 21.00, while Amanda said that she was going to the pub Le Chic because she wanted to meet with her friends.
At this point we said goodbye. I went home, I made a joint. Had dinner, but I don’t remember what I ate. About 23.00 my father called me on my house phone line.
I recall Amanda was not back yet.
I web surfed on the computer for two more hours after my father’s phone call and I only stopped when Amanda came back in, presumably about 01.00…
In my previous statement I told a load of rubbish because Amanda had convinced me of her version of the facts and I didn’t think about the inconsistencies.
Yikes. Knox finds her best alibi yanked.
2 Click for Post: Summarised AK And RS Signed Statements 2-5 November 2007
Not so long after, possibly knowing about this, Knox comes out with a statement which points at Sollecito in turn.
I don’t know for sure if Raffaele was there that night [during the attack on Meredith] but I do remember very well waking up at my boyfriend’s house, in his bed, and I went back to my house in the morning where I found the door open.
3. [Source to come] Then on 8 November 2007 Sollecito submitted a statement to Judge Matteini which began:
I never want to see Amanda again. Above all, it is her fault we are here.
4. [Source to come] There were multiple further instances throughout the rest of 2007, quotes of which will be included soon in the Knox Interrogation Hoax series.
2. The Year 2008
5. [Source to come] Knox and Sollecito each appealed Judge Matteini’s ruling to the Supreme Court. Neither helped the other at all. Both appeals failed in April and they were each kept locked up.
6. Click for Post: Sollecito Turns On Knox? This Is Extraordinary”¦
In October toward the end of Guede’s trial and RS’s and AK’s remand for trial Sollecito’s DNA expert testifies to Judge Micheli that he found Knox’s DNA on Meredith’s bra and bra-clasp.
7. Click for Post: Sollecito Family Trial: On The Component About Their Alleged Attempt At Political Interference
Francesco Sollecito phone conversation in March 2008 with Vanessa captured by the Carabinieri in which he shows his extreme distrust and dislike of Knox who he blames for RS’s plight.
3. The Year 2009
8. Click for Post The Letters Between The Women’s And Men’s Wings In Capanne
Letters sent from Knox to Sollecito in February are published, showing an eagerness to get together, suggesting she really needs Sollecito to speak up and confirm her latest alibi.
9. Click for Post Trial: Defendant Noticeably Bubblier Than Meredith’s Sad Friends
This kind of callous, flippant behavior by Knox had the entire court backed off, not least the Sollecito team which had no desire to be chained to this seeming dangerous nut.
10. Click for Post Sollecito Not To Be Trumped By Knox Antics In The Female Wing Of Capanne
While RS and AK didnt have access to one another they sure had access to the media and in the Italian media a competitive Sollecito posted a steady stream of stories
11. Click for Post Trial: Knox Claimed Not To Have Been At The House On The Night
Knox suddenly claims this, despite contrary 2007 claims by both Knox & Sollecito, which messes with Sollecito’s alibi that he was at home alone on the computer.
12. Click for Post Seems Sollecito Is Feeling Really Sorry - For Himself (So What’s New?)
Sollecito tries to give himself an edge over AK by being extra-whiny about how awful he finds prison, and the distasteful little people he was being made to mix with.
4. The Year 2010
13 Click for Post How Each of The Three Subtly But Surely Pushed The Other Two Closer to The Fire
The Knox team avoided this popular Porta a Porta TV series, maybe too scared of hard questions, while the Sollecito lawyers and family used it to promote suspicion of AK and Guede.
14. Click for Post Newsweek Report From Italy On Damage Shrill Campaign Is Doing To Knox’s Interests & America’s Image
The shrill Knox campaign was irritating Italians and so hurting Sollecito’s image and prospects and it was not shoring up his own story. Bongiorno especially disliked the campaign.
15. Click for Post Rocco Girlanda’s Strutting Manic Grinning Intrusion Seems A Major Danger To Sollecito/Knox Harmony
The strangely kinky Member of Parliament (now voted out) paid numerous visits to Knox (“monitoring conditions”) and tried some nasty (though ineffective) political tricks - but not for Sollecito.
16. Click for Post The Knox Movie: Sollecito Reported Angry - Real Risk That His Defense Could Break Away From Knox’s
The Sollecito camp had a strong belief that the Knox camp was behind this TV movie and so they fought it, though it turned out quite even-handed and the RS role was minor.
5. The Year 2011
17. Click for Post Sollecito Defense Team Breaking From Knox Defense Team On Legal Measures To Stop Lifetime Movie
Further differences reported here between the two camps on the Lifetime movie which until it was aired was believed to favor Knox and build a case for her innocence.
18. Click for Post Tenth Appeal Court Session: Might Today’s Testimony Give Sollecito More Of An Advantage Than Knox?
After his team’s (attempted) discounting of the main evidence at Meredith’s house against Sollecito, Knox’s position looks way worse, as she has motives both for killing and cover-up.
19. Click for Post Is The Raffaele Sollecito Defense Team About To Separate Him From A Radioactive Amanda Knox?
Final days. Sollecito has at least five advantages over Knox. Better lead lawyer, better family in Italian eyes with smarter campaign, not much physical evidence at the house, no obvious motive unlike Knox, and a weak and washy personality Bongiorno plays up.
6. The Year 2012
20. Click for Post In Desperation A Council Of War? All Of The Sollecito Family Suddenly Hop On Flights To Seattle
Sollecito is the one now in puppy-dog mode, though his father has said publicly that the relationship with Knox is at an end; here the RS family sets out for Seattle to try to make it so.
21. Click for Post Sollecito’s Book Honor Bound Hits Italy And Already Scathing Reactions And Legal Trouble
Sollecito’s book, which subtly promotes Knox’s guilt, runs into legal trouble for false claims, which could also impact Knox’s claims and legal future. His seeming sticking with Knox damages Bongiorno’s defense strategy.
22. Click for Post Will Sollecito Drop Amanda Knox In It Further In A Public Seattle Interview At 7:00 PM Tonight?
Sollecito’s American book promotion tour often went badly and he seemed unaware of what was in his own book; though once again he was making out Knox was guiltier. His defense team despise the book.
7. The Year 2013
23. Click for Post Knox & Sollecito Meet - To Attempt To Bury The Hatchet Other Than In Each Other?
The second public Sollecito attempt to end up with Knox, who already had chips on her shoulders about him but went through this charade. Soon, they were back to whacking one another.
24. Click for Post Seeds Of Betrayal: Sollecito Twice More Implies Evidence Against Knox Much Stronger Than Against Him
Sollecito sustains this steady drum-beat of putting Knox down, highlighting the evidence against her, repeatedly saying he stuck with her despite no evidence against him (no deal helping RS was ever offered).
25. Click for Post Seeds Of Betrayal: In Interview Knox Reveals To Italy Her Considerable Irritation With Sollecito
Knox does an extended interview with Oggi (for which she and Oggi are being charged) lying about officials and the evidence, but also uttering her angriest blast yet against Sollecito.
8. The Year 2014
26. Click for Post Rejected Yet Again By Knox, Sollecito Seems Frantic To Avoid What Might Be A Final Return To Italy
Sollecito (like Sforza) was desperately looking for someone to marry him, to keep him in the US. Kelsey Kay was briefly interested, but he dumped her; he had told her Knox had recently turned him down.
27. Click for Post What We Might Read Into Sollecito Lawyer Giulia Bongiornos Final Arguments To The Appeal Judges
Bongiorno shows contempt for Knox; she effectively conveys the sense of the RS family that a crazed Knox dragged RS into this. She see the RS book as a pro-Knox con job by her team.
28. Click for Post As Knox & Sollecito Try To Separate Themselves, Each Is Digging The Other In Deeper
Sollecito is clearly trying to distance himself from Knox now, claiming that there is far more evidence against her than against him. Knox’s irritation with him is growing.
29. Click for Post Sollecito Suddenly Remembers He Wasnt There But Cannot Speak For Knox Who (As She Said) Went Out
Members of Sollecito’s family are believed to be taking their anger at Knox to Twitter and making numerous taunts while emphasizing how they believe Sollecito was dropped in it by Knox and is less to blame.
30. Click for Post Spitting In the Wind: Sollecito News Conference Backfires On Him AND Knox - What The Media Missed
Really irritated at the US-written RS book, Bongiorno goes a long way to separating the two perps in the minds of Italians; however RS hedges a little though, after having said the evidence points only to Knox.
4. Interim Conclusion
There were also myriad instances of mutual put-downs in their two books. Public squabbles post-2014 will soon be linked-to. The war by other means also continues on Twitter. Briefly it hit the bathshit-crazy Ground Report website.
This feud is obviously driven mostly by Sollecito. Much damage to Knox is already done, and Italians adamantly want her put away. A brighter family and paid team might now be saying “It is time for a Plan B and doing something to warm up Italy”.
Posted by Our Main Posters on 07/18/14 at 07:55 PM in Various hypotheses, The psychology, Evidence & Witnesses, Hoaxes Knox & team, 13 AK persona hoax, 14 AK/RS got-on hoax, 15 Single alibi hoax, Hoaxes Sollecito etc, 25 RS persona hoax, 26 RS/AK got-on hoax, 27 Single alibi hoax, Hoaxers from 2007, Knox-Marriott PR, Raff Sollecito PR, Hoaxers from 2011, Amanda Knox #2, Raff Sollecito #2
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Someone claiming to be Amanda Knox said on Ground Report that the Ted Thomson article was a lie. (See my comments in the previous post)
Should be interesting to see if she replies.
Posted by Ergon on 07/19/14 at 03:55 AM | #
Well, it will all unravel even more as the SC dates loom.
Very disappointing to see in the clip that AK continues to slander the Italian courts and prosecutor to the US public.
Can I ask: Is it established that Cassation will hear the case early 2015 or can we hope for an earlier date?
Posted by thundering on 07/19/14 at 03:58 AM | #
Hi Ergon
So let me guess. A freelancing Knox floats a credible rumor about just the kind of thing she would so - and then gets pushed out at the end of a stick to eat her words?!
Get her away from her handlers (ie to an appeal in Florence) and she would maybe blab the truth in hours.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/19/14 at 06:11 AM | #
Entirely possible, Pete 😊
Posted by Ergon on 07/19/14 at 07:27 AM | #
The hijacking of the writing of the Sollecito book by the Knox people is what drives Bongiorno’s fury and makes the latest episode in Rome far from the last round.
The book actually makes Sollecito look very anti-Italy as well as a puffed-up nasty little creep with delusions of grandeur. (Nothing could be further from the truth, right?!!!)
When the charges against the book go public, expect a further dip in RS’s popularity in Italy, further damage to his prospects, further venom against AK who is ostensibly in charge of her crazy hordes.
She needs to get on with her under-the-bus throwing, disposing of her hordes this time around.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/19/14 at 02:14 PM | #
I do agree the two camps are threatening each other, Peter. It’s a spider dance we’ve been observing carried on through Twitter and Facebook ever since Raffaele’s interview though he showed intimations of such at the Florence Appeal.
That Knox actually showed up on Ground Report to deny the Ted Thomson article (and all the official denials from the managing editor and co-founder Paul Sterne) pretty well confirms the original article was planted by Camp Knox.
It’s all Kabuki; we understand that.
Posted by Ergon on 07/19/14 at 05:58 PM | #
But I must really commend “Johnny Yen” who has been tying them up in knots on Ground Report. Here’s his latest analysis, in full:
Johnny Yen • an hour ago
Here is proof that “Brian Corvello” is, in fact, Lisa Marie Basile:
“I was an English major…”
“I have an MA in psychology.”
“I graduated Pace University…”
About Lisa Marie Basile:
“She attended Pace University to study English and psychology…”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-marie-basile/
You dimwits are so easy to bust now. So, Lisa, have you read the official court documents yet? Or do you still just “feel” that Amanda Knox is innocent?
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Posted by Ergon on 07/19/14 at 06:03 PM | #
Please report the following tweet, from another really offensive poster TrackStarGazing. I won’t repeat the tweet but you can see at the link below where he attacks Meredith and the Kerchers.
Block or Report: (Do not block!)
What’s the problem?: This user is abusive. Select ‘harassment’.
Next:
Report Details:
What username is causing the issue?: @TrackStarGazing
Reported Tweet URL: https://twitter.com/TrackStarGazing/status/490481022111215616 (You have to save the full tweet URL, not this truncated one)
Further description of problem: This tweeter has been making abusive remarks about a murder victim, addressed to her family.
Tell us about yourself: requires your Twitter e-mail, country and signature.
Submit.
Posted by Ergon on 07/19/14 at 08:45 PM | #
I see it isn’t truncated. Great. This sort of abuse has to be countered.
Posted by Ergon on 07/19/14 at 08:47 PM | #
@Ergon
OK, reported. TrackStarGazing seems a vile piece of work.
In his delusion, he clearly really believes that Harry Rag is Kercher senior, therefore part of an anti-Amanda conspiracy and so fair game.
It’s all gone way beyond farce. Aldous Huxley was once asked if he understood madness and he thought that once you start with the wrong idea, everything can seem like a conspiracy against you.
I reckon that kind of creeping and progressive paranoia also applies to irrational types who for varying reasons become heavily and emotionally invested in a cause. Their venom increases as they inevitably begin to see evidence of conspiracy everywhere.
Only rarely do such zealots revisit their initial mistaken beliefs.
Posted by Odysseus on 07/19/14 at 09:54 PM | #
Thanks, Odysseus. I hope others will catch and report any abuse of the decent Kercher family online.
I note the gentleman named above by “Johnny Yen” denies he is Lisa Marie Basile. Accepted.
The Knoxii, on the other hand, refuse to stop attacking the Kerchers, accusing harryrag at length of being John Kercher, despite repeated denials.
And no, even though I lived in Japan for 5 years, I am not “Johnny Yen” 😊
Posted by Ergon on 07/20/14 at 01:11 AM | #
That tweeting about John Kercher is about as sick as it gets. The Kerchers have always played ZERO role behind the scenes. They witnessed a very fair trial in 2009 (at the end of which they were very restrained about the guilty verdict) and then had to witness a hijacked appeal in 2011.
They never go on the internet. They’re hundreds of thousands in debt. Neither the UK nor Italy give them any help. And John and Arline both have major health problems. John had two strokes and while I dont know the details I doubt if John could pen “Meredith” now.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/20/14 at 04:16 PM | #
There are anti-harrassment-of-victims-and-families laws in all 50 states. It only takes one complaint, and prosecutors must act.
Please email us examples of harrassment folks (dont post them here) and we will see if we can help to put these dangerous thugs in court. At federal level we have many friends.
Is there an obvious overall harrassment manager? Chris Mellas? Bruce Fischer? Nigel Scott?
Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/20/14 at 04:24 PM | #
The tweet from obnoxious #amandaknox supporter TrackStarGazing has now been deleted.
Congratulations to all who complained! Please keep track on any attacks on the Kerchers, as Peter suggests.
https://twitter.com/TrackStarGazing/status/490481022111215616
Posted by Ergon on 07/20/14 at 09:10 PM | #
My heart goes out to the Kerchers as they have to keep paying over and over for a crime committed against them. If AK and RS would have admitted to their crimes instead of lying all these years perhaps there would have been a sense of ‘closure’.
Luckily, time is running out on them and both know (in their heart of hearts) what the outcome will be. My understanding is that none of this PR work affects anything with the Courts so I would assume they are hoping for pity or mitigating circumstances in their final sentencing?
Posted by Vinnie on 07/21/14 at 06:24 AM | #
Well said Vinnie
It is shameful the lack of compassion, and worse, manifested towards the Kercher family. Even a short period of high stress is known to have a deeply detrimental affect on all aspects of one’s health and well-being.
For substantial stress to have been sustained for years in the way it has is nothing short of cruel and sadistic bullying. Those responsible should be ashamed.
Posted by SeekingUnderstanding on 07/21/14 at 10:05 AM | #
Thanks, TJMK Main Posters, for a nice overview of the Knox-Sollecito duel.
It’s amazing that as early as a week after the murder, Sollecito is saying to Moscatelli that Amanda left his apartment from 9pm to 1am. Then they agreed on the story of being together all night. His recent Rome press conference shed doubt on that.
Then shortly after his Rome derring-do, a Ground Report article announced Amanda’s plan to blame Raffaelle for the murder. After that bombshell the article was pulled. Now Mr. Sterne’s reasons for that decision provide a new post, under which hundreds of comments are reenacting the database of evidence against Knox with arguments pro and con. Some bash Maresca and continue to insult Mignini and spout the most outrageous theories, while denying all evidence against Knox and holding out hope that ECHR will save her or extradition will be stymied.
I rewatched the Lifetime movie with Hayden Panettiere. When it first was broadcast I saw only the errors in it, so fresh was the story of the murder. This time it revealed the diligent line of police work, and the only conclusions to be drawn from the knife, footprints and phone calls, etc.
The actress who portrayed Meredith was moving. There was much pathos in the scene of her confronting Amanda about the cleaning of the flat. Then, thinking they were back in one accord she walks shoulder to shoulder with her down stone steps. What happy friends they might have been had Amanda made any effort, or had she just slapped Meredith’s face and said, “I’m moving out.” Anything would be better than what happened, even insults or scissored clothes and torn textbooks.
Mignini was brilliant. The script showed how incensed he was that the American PR weapon was aimed at freeing Amanda by destroying his reputation. So the PR noise only angered and put Italy’s back up by the use of such tactics and irrelevant mudslinging. The Marriott blank ammunition was useless except to produce the returned fire of strengthened perseverance from Mignini and his Florence successors.
The theme of the movie, “Murder on Trial”, seemed to be about lost dreams. People who had so much going for them dashed someone’s dreams, took a life, then had their own dreams destroyed as a result. The idyll of Italy smashed by vandals of the soul. The tragedy of lost dreams in the old song, ” Tell me, How Can You Mend a Broken Heart…How do you stop the sun from shining? How do you stop the rain from falling? What makes the world go round?”
Meredith would never have let her dreams die, maybe they still energize the public memories of her.
Posted by Hopeful on 07/22/14 at 11:40 PM | #
I love your last sentence, Hopeful…
Posted by SeekingUnderstanding on 07/23/14 at 12:55 AM | #
Relating to this topic and the Ted Thompson article, a person claiming to be Amanda Knox wrote the following at the ABC News site
Amanda > Guest • 5 hours ago
“This article was fake.
Why do people like you make up such stories?
I never planned to accuse Raffaele.
Period.
And I see your post everywhere, aren’t you tired?
I am really tired of all this talk about this article which was taken down by the way!
We are both innocent. I did not kill my friend.
I will not accuse Raffaele, and he will not accuse me either, we are both working with the Italian court.
<u>If R. was accusing me of something, I would defend myself and he would lose everything and he knows it</u>. We are working side by side.
The Italian court made a mistake last time, that was not a fair trial, the judge was unfair. There is no evidence against us, we are both innocent
I believe we will get a fair trial and a fair judgement this time.
I am certain that <u>the Italian Supreme court is not as corrupt as the previous court.</u>
I was found innocent before, and we will be found innocent again.
That’s all I can say for now”
Do drop by and check it out, the Knoxii are deleting comments right left and center.
Posted by Ergon on 07/23/14 at 02:13 AM | #
@SeekingUnderstanding, thank you very much. There must be something extremely special about Meredith that motivates people to stay connected to her so many years after her death.
Another thing re: the Lifetime movie. The Edda character arrives in Italy flustered and is told the mayor of Perugia has recommended defense counsel for Amanda. There’s much talk in that scene of the mayor. Maybe that’s why Amanda did have the mistaken impression at first that Mignini was the mayor (if the script used facts).
Marcia Gay Harden does a great job of playing Edda Mellas. When the first guilty verdict is announced her eyes lock with Arline’s across the courtroom in a scene of silent body language and tormented eyes.
Posted by Hopeful on 07/23/14 at 02:39 AM | #
I LOVE this website! Thank you again Peter. It is very interesting how Ted Thomson’s article has created such a reaction amongst the Cult Of Knox (C.O.K.) members!
Mr. Egon’s above post of the reply to me by Amanda is quite chilling. What did she mean by saying that Raffaele would lose “everything”? Surely, Raffaele is reading the comments on that article about himself on a daily basis. And, for sure, Amanda knows that.
So was that an outright death threat directed at him? Some of us think so. Others think that it was Amanda’s original plan after she got arrested but that Curt told her not to say that. Either way, we all know that Raffaele is going to confess to accessory to murder.
It will come either just before, during or after the final hearing. And we all know that she won’t be there to stop him. Unless, of course, she puts a mob hit on him.
Posted by Johnny Yen on 07/23/14 at 03:16 AM | #
The World According To Knox:
I did not intend to kill Meredith but she was was not my friend; therefore it is true when I say:
“I did not kill my friend.”
Posted by Cardiol MD on 07/23/14 at 05:15 AM | #
Welcome, Johnny Yen!
Posted by Hopeful on 07/23/14 at 04:43 PM | #
Thank you, Ergon, this is worth repeating, so, once more with feeling:
“If R. was accusing me of something, I would defend myself and he would lose everything and he knows it.”
So, Knox does not defend herself now because “R.” has not accused her of anything. Yet.
But she implies she does have the nuclear option (of throwing the other moron under the bus), which ironically kind of validates the claims in the Ted Thompson article.
Posted by Bjorn on 07/23/14 at 05:02 PM | #
@Cardiol
So far it has been that “there is no evidence”. Perhaps she has never said “I did not kill Meredith”.
Posted by chami on 07/23/14 at 05:07 PM | #
Thanks, Bjorn, these comments made on Ground Report and ABC News do seem to be have been made by her.
Too precious by half, made in a manner she can deny, but still carrying implicit threats to Raffaele Sollecito and his family.
Posted by Ergon on 07/23/14 at 06:50 PM | #
@Ergon, Johnny and Bjorn
Yes, it’s a very threatening comment, coming from someone on a knife edge..
Posted by SeekingUnderstanding on 07/23/14 at 07:40 PM | #
@Ergon, thanks for embedding this comment from the ABC site by someone named Amanda Knox. If you count the number of times she uses “I” it does ring true. Might be an imposter but the “I"s have it.
She is terrified of Raffaele whose instinct for self-preservation now yells at him to wake up and smell the cappuccino not the barista.
Posted by Hopeful on 07/23/14 at 09:29 PM | #
Thank you Hopeful and everyone else here! The media blackout on this case in America is really disturbing.
There are still many American posters on Reddit who don’t even know about the courts’ motivations reports!
They have read nothing but Marriott’s mad media mix. Very disturbing, indeed.
Anyway, in case anyone missed it, here is that comment by Amanda:
Posted by Johnny Yen on 07/24/14 at 02:42 AM | #
Hi Johnny and Ergon
Could you link us to the explanation by Paul Sterne? He provides a free pass to 150 highly defamatory posts.
He is the father of Rachel Sterne Haot, not bothered to make a buck out of trashing a murder victim and all Italy, who we have posted about before here:
Pro-Italy forces will whisck the rug out from under Ground Report and the Sternes soon.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 07/25/14 at 09:28 PM | #
@Ergon
The latest comment written by someone who claimed to be Amanda Knox posted under the ABC article now appears to be written by a “guest”.
Her earlier comments are still available under the name “Amanda”.
For screenshots, please click here.
I couldn’t find a way to embed the screenshots here, they were too big and the image tag would not resize them to fit the page.
Posted by Nell on 07/26/14 at 11:37 AM | #
Hi, Peter,
Here’s the Paul Sterne quote. http://groundreport.com/community/amanda-knox-article-taken-down-after-fact-check/
The “volunteer editors” and “reporters” he’s referring to all seem to be Bruce Fischer and co. In fact, Bruce was boasting on IIP about having it taken down, so their verification of sources can be taken with a grain of slat.
That was where “Amanda” showed up, first on Ground Report then ABC news in response to our thousands of comments. Careful analysis of her writing indicates it was Amanda Knox. What she wrote, as can be seen in Nell’s link is quite chilling but also shows how worried she is about what the Sollecitos may do.
Posted by Ergon on 07/26/14 at 06:46 PM | #
@Nell, would Cristina Magnani and Aunt Sara Achile ever have made the comments about Amanda Knox without the Sollecito’s approval?
Every thing out of Italy these days indicates the fine hand of Giulia Bongiorno, with more shocks to follow.
RS’s politic denial of Aunt Sara’s comments can be taken with a hefty dose of salt.
Posted by Ergon on 07/26/14 at 06:59 PM | #
However, I will say this: any attempt by #raffaelesollecito’s defense to deny his involvement and blame the murder on unnamed cokies won’t fly.
Posted by Ergon on 07/27/14 at 03:37 AM | #
Hi Ergon,
I believe Cristina Magnani and Sara Achille do the dirty work for Raffaele Sollecito, allowing him to keep up appearances and protecting him from a retaliation campaign by Knox.
In my opinion Cristina Magnani and Sara Achille have the family’s approval, otherwise Francesco Sollecito had already reined them in. He would not remain silent wouldn’t he agree with what is being said. He has been vocal in support of his son before.
I think the comment written under the name “Amanda” is either Amanda Knox herself or someone who has her approval, otherwise she would have already disassociated herself from the comments made in her name. Instead the comment containing the threat against Raffaele Sollecito was deleted from the profile while earlier comments remain intact.
I think it’s Knox. Since Raffaele Sollecito announced his separation strategy she hasn’t been the same. She has abandoned her blog and stayed quiet. She knows she’s going down.
Posted by Nell on 07/27/14 at 03:45 PM | #
Here’s the original comment by “Amanda” on Ground Report complaining about the Ted Thomson piece:
By Amanda • 9 days ago
Someone said here that “innocent people do not hide”.
I have nothing to hide.
So here I am.
I read a lot but I do not post much.
I am glad this article was taken down by GR, that was a lie.
I will not talk much about the case, the court in Italy is working on the case.
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So I had to ask her
By manfromatlan > Amanda • 9 days ago
Ms Knox, do you have a job offer to work for a publisher in New York this August, as reported by La Nazione? Addressed to Amanda Knox only, if you are she.
Reply
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No reply yet, but Bruce Fischer popped out of the woodwork to cast aspersions on moi for something or the other 😊
Posted by Ergon on 07/27/14 at 05:09 PM | #
Note: it got cut off here, but the “Amanda” quote on Ground Report above was signed “a”, which is her signature. That, plus the fact she tried to obscure her name on ABC indicates it WAS her.
Posted by Ergon on 07/28/14 at 12:34 AM | #
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