Innocence Project: Seven Years Clutching Knox And Trashing Italian Justice To Joy Of Mafias #3
Knox enablers Jason Flom, Barry Scheck, Greg Hampikian
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1. What Hampikian Omits In Misleading The American Audience (1)
Think of the evidence in the case as a giant jigsaw puzzle. Say it consists of 1000 pieces.
We at TJMK and PMF and the Wiki are finally on top of nearly all of them. Thanks especially to Italy’s amazing habit of documenting and its open-process juries and our fine translators.
In the US and UK there would be few such documents. And no reasoning at all from any black-box jury. No surprise really that the Innocence Project has many cases here - and none in Italy.
Hampikian in his frenetic marketing of Knox, in sharp contrast to our full picture, leaves out pretty well everything. The previous post by KrissyG showed this for us first.
Amazingly, Hampikian revealed he is not even clued up on the full extent of the DNA.
Now in the prosecution phases of the trial back in 2009 the judges and lay-judges were presented with all 1000 pieces of the puzzle, in 20 day-long sessions (a quarter in closed court and not reported by media in detail). Also they did voluminous side-reading of the case files.
Plus of course staring at the telling Knox and Sollecito reactions for hours and hours.
Knox obviously preferred to be daffy and her version of likable, and to try to warm up a hostile Sollecito. He was obviously sulky and angry at Knox, refusing to look at her or to speak in favor of any of her alibis. Both grimly sat through the hard-to-take closed sessions.
For us and many in Italy, the case came to be a convincingly strong one about midpoint in the trial.
That was when a defiant Knox was on the stand for two days, doing herself no good, incessantly contradicting herself and causing this typical reaction and this one.
Knocked back by this, the defenses used up only a very few court days to attempt rebuttals and attempt to squeeze nice opinions out of character witnesses. Pretty well all Italy could see the defenses were outgunned, listless, and demoralized.
Back in 2008 there had been talk of RS and AK admitting to heavy drug use or psychological issues but the parents would have none of it.
So other than incessantly beating up on Guede (an easy “out” as he was not present to defend himself) it was hard for them to find things to talk about. Some court days were cancelled because of this and Sollecito lawyer Bongiorno skipped several sessions.
This all matters. It explains things. But Hampikian omits all of it in his simplistic and ridiculous bid for glory.
He misrepresents a small fraction of the DNA evidence, reveals himself ignorant of a much bigger and equally damning fraction, and ignores all other evidence as if everything other than DNA is of lower importance.
So here below from the Wiki Evidence Masterlist is all of the forensic evidence made public by the end of 2009. (Although very extensive, this is still only about 50% of all the evidence items on the Masterlist. Hampikian hid that half also.)
Again, this was all known to the jury as of the end of trial - which like any jury anywhere can convict on ONE item if it speaks guilt to them. This was the only jury to hear the whole case. The one that voted for guilt unanimously. As any American or British jury would have done.
Part 3 at bottom summarizes the damning court take and the Knox shills’ spin.
2. Forensic Evidence In The Public Realm By Late 2009
Area 1: The Wounds
11-01 Meredith Kercher sustained 43 wounds during the assault that killed her. (Perna closing arguments 2009)
1-02 She had 10 knife wounds and 33 other wounds. (Lalli 2009)
1-03 She had at least 15 bruises: on her mouth, nose, cheeks, jaw, neck, elbows, right forearm, small of her back, left thigh, and right lower leg. The bruises indicate she was not only restrained, but also kept from screaming for help. (Lalli 2009)
1-04 Some of the bruising on Ms. Kercher was in the shape of fingertips, with some fingertips being smaller, of a woman’s size. There were no ligature marks. (Lalli, Marchionni, Codispoti 2009)
1-05 Some of the neck bruises indicate Ms. Kercher was being choked at some point during the assault. (Liviero 2009)
1-06 The internal vaginal bruising suffered by Ms. Kercher happened before her death and was violent. (Lalli, Marchionni 2009)
1-07 She had only 2 major knife wounds, one on each side of her neck. The remaining knife wounds were minor. (Lalli 2009)
1-08 The wound on the right side of her neck was narrow and deep. The wound on the left side of her neck was wide, large, gaping and fatal. These two wounds were likely made with two different knives. (Bacci, Politi, Codispoti, Mignini 2009)
1-09 She had another knife cut just below the gaping wound on the left side of her neck. (Lalli 2009)
1-10 She had 3 other glancing knife wounds on her neck and cheeks. (Lalli 2009)
1-11 She had 3 small cuts on her right hand and one small cut on her left hand. (Lalli 2009)
1-12 Her defensive wounds were virtually non-existent, especially when compared with other single-attacker knife attacks, where knife wounds on the hands and arms are prevalent. (Cingolani, Codispoti 2009)
1-13 The wounds were compatible with an assault by multiple persons (Cingolani, Codispoti, Lalli, Liviero 2009).
1-14 Bacci, Lalli and Liviero testified that the wounds could not be ascribed with 100% certainty to a single person or multiple person assault. However Lalli and Liviero preferred the multiple person assault scenario, given the quantity and different types of wounds. (Bacci, Lalli, Liviero 2009)
1-15 Lalli confirmed under questioning by Judge Massei that if the rape happened during the assault, then the assault had to be carried out by more than one person. (Lalli 2009)
Area 2: The Blood traces
2-01 Blood traces were found all around Ms. Kercher’s bedroom, not in one specific area. (crime scene photos)
2-02 In Ms. Kercher’s bedroom, blood was found by the far wall, on and inside the closet, under the desk, by and under the bed, on the walls above the bed, on the mattress cover, on the floor in large quantities and on the door into the bedroom. (crime scene photos)
2-03 Blood was also found on the floor in the form of partial shoeprints leading out of the cottage. Blood traces were also found on the small bathroom door, in the small bathroom (on the light switch, sink, bidet, bathroom floor mat, etc.), possibly on a few items in Knox’s bedroom, and also in Luminol-revealed traces found on the floor in the corridor, in Knox’s bedroom and in Romanelli’s bedroom. (crime scene photos, Codispoti 2009)
2-04 No blood traces were found near, leading to or in the large bathroom where Guede defecated. (crime scene photos, Dr. Stefanoni Genetic Test report)
2-05 Blood pattern analysis indicates Ms. Kercher was fatally stabbed around 40 cm above the ground, near to the closet door. (Camana 2009)
2-06 Blood traces on the floor indicate objects were shifted or removed after Ms. Kercher had started bleeding from the fatal wound. (crime scene photos)
2-07 Ms. Kercher’s body was moved after she was stabbed, as can be seen from the blood smears on the floor. (crime scene photos)
2-08 Blood traces on the mattress cover indicate that one or more knives used in the assault were placed on the mattress cover. (Politi 2009)
2-09 Blood traces under the bed indicate someone was likely searching under the bed for something after the assault. (Codispoti 2009)
Area 3. Clothing traces
3-01 Blood was found on her sweat jacket, bra, jeans and socks. (crime scene photos)
3-02 Ms. Kercher’s bra and sweat jacket indicate she bled on the right side, likely from the knife wound on the right side of her neck, for some time before these were removed. (evidence item photos in Dr. Stefanoni’s slide presentation)
3-03 The sleeves on her sweat jacket were pulled inside-out. (Stefanoni 2009)
3-04 Blood stains on her sweat jacket and shirt indicate these were pulled up around her neck after she had been wounded. (Codispoti 2009)
3-05 Her jeans were also inside out, with blood spots inside her jeans. (Stefanoni 2009)
3-06 Her panties were found near her body, and had no blood stains. (Stefanoni 2009)
3-07 Ms. Kercher’s bra was removed after she was dead, as can be seen from blood speckles on the bra that were not found on her chest. (Micheli Motivation report, Codispoti 2009
3-08 Her body was covered with a duvet, and she only had an undershirt on. (Micheli Motivation report)
3-09 Police found a pillow, a bed sheet, a sock and two towels under her body. (Nencini Motivation Report- citing Lalli’s site report)
3-10 Guede’s bloody handprint was found on the pillow. (Sbardella 2009)
3-11 Guede’s bloody shoeprint was found on the pillow right under Ms. Kercher’s leg. (Sbardella 2009)
3-12 Police found Ms Kercher’s bra clasp under the pillow, and then later found it again under a carpet in the bedroom, 46 days after initial discovery. (Cantagalli, Codispoti, Stefanoni 2009, crime scene photos)
3-13 A sock was found around one of Ms. Kercher’s purse handles on the bed. (crime scene photos)
3-14 Ms. Kercher’s purse was found on the mattress cover, indicating it had been placed there after the duvet had been used to cover her body. (crime scene photos)
Area 4. Ms. Kercher’s room
4-01 Only the mattress cover remained on the bed. After the assault, someone removed the duvet, pillow and bed sheet from the bed, and placed Ms. Kercher on the bed sheet, two towels and pillow on the floor, then covered her body with the duvet. (Codispoti 2009, crime scene photos)
4-02 Someone took Ms. Kercher’s wallet and credit cards from her purse and placed the purse on the mattress cover on the bed. (Profazio 2009, Nencini Motivations report, crime scene photos)
4-03 Someone left receipts on the duvet covering Ms. Kercher’s body. (Codispoti 2009, crime scene photos)
4-04 Someone took Ms. Kercher’s cell phones and tossed them over a roadside wall, inadvertently into the garden of another villa, some 950 meters from the cottage. (Nencini Motivations report)
4-05 Someone took Ms. Kercher’s room and house keys. (Napoleoni 2009)
4-06 An empty jar of Vaseline was found on her desk. (crime scene photos, Napoleoni 2009)
4-07 The wall shelf by her closet had been knocked around, and objects on the shelf were tipped over. (crime scene photos, Codispoti 2009)
4-08 Ms. Kercher’s nightstand lamp and Knox’s nightstand lamp were both on the floor next to the bed. (crime scene photos)
4-09 Knox’s lamp was partially under Ms. Kercher’s bed, and it was the only functioning light Knox had in her room. (crime scene photos, Nencini Motivations report)
4-10 Someone closed and locked Ms. Kercher’s bedroom door, and took her bedroom door key. (Battistelli, Romanelli, Altieri, Zaroli, Napoleoni 2009)
4-11 Romanelli testified Ms. Kercher rarely closed and locked her own bedroom door, while Knox claimed Ms. Kercher normally locked her door. (Battistelli, Zaroli, Altieri, Romanelli 2009)
4-12 Ms. Kercher’s bedroom door had a small crack in it before it was broken down. (Altieri 2009).
Area 5: Shoeprints
5-01 Guede’s bloody left shoeprints were found in Ms. Kercher’s room.
5-02 Guede’s bloody left shoeprints were also found leading down the corridor, into the kitchen/dining room and out the front door, without any trace of prints indicating he turned to close and lock Ms. Kercher’s bedroom door.
5-03 Five different papers and cards, most smudged with blood, were found on the floor in Ms. Kercher’s room. These papers and cards had at least two different types of shoeprints which did not match any of Ms. Kercher’s shoes.
5-04 A similar card was found in Romanelli’s room, with a shoeprint not matching those on the cards and papers in Ms. Kercher’s room.
5-05 A smaller shoeprint similar to Guede’s shoe type was found on the pillow found under Ms. Kercher. Police consultants estimate this was a female sized shoe.
Area 6: Footprints
6-01 Half of a bloody footprint was found on the bathmat. The heel of this footprint, which should have been on the floor, was missing, suggesting it was cleaned away. (crime scene photos, report)
6-02 The bloody footprint matches Sollecito’s right foot size and characteristics.
6-03 Five Luminol-revealed footprints were found on the floor in the corridor and in Knox’s bedroom.
6-04 One of these Luminol-revealed footprints was compatible with Sollecito’s right foot.
6-05 Two others were compatible with Knox’s right foot.
6-06 None of the Luminol-revealed footprints were compatible with Guede’s feet.
Area 7: Fingerprints
7-01 Ms. Kercher’s fingerprints were found on Knox’s closet door.
7-02 Knox’s fingerprints were only found on a glass in the kitchen. None of her fingerprints were found in her own bedroom, or elsewhere in the cottage.
7-03 Sollecito’s fingerprints were on Ms. Kercher’s bedroom door and on the inside face of Laura Mezzetti’s door.
7-04 Guede’s fingerprint was found in Ms. Kercher’s bedroom.
Area 8: DNA testing general
8-01 227 evidence items were sampled or bagged. 30 of these were not analyzed.
8-02 From the remaining 197 evidence items, over 480 DNA and Y haplotype tests were prepared from liquids, solids or hairs. Many objects were sampled in multiple places.
8-03 Out of the over 480 DNA and Y haplotype tests, only 193 of these tests actually yielded DNA useful for comparison. (40%)
8-04 24 tests were from samples taken from Ms. Kercher’s body. Of these, 1 test yielded DNA compatible with Guede’s Y haplotype, 17 tests yielded DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s, and the remaining did not yield DNA useful for comparison.
8-05 11 tests were from samples taken from the exterior of the cottage. Of these, 2 tests yielded DNA compatible with an unknown female, 2 tests yielded cat DNA and the remainder did not yield useful DNA.
8-06 21 tests were from samples taken from the basement apartment at the cottage. Of these, 16 tests yielded cat blood, 2 tests yielded DNA compatible with an unknown male and the remaining did not yield DNA useful for comparison.
8-07 221 tests were from samples or items taken from the upper apartment at the cottage. Of these, 6 tests yielded DNA compatible with Guede’s DNA or Y haplotype, 82 tests yielded DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA, 2 tests yielded DNA compatible with a mixture of Ms. Kercher’s and Guede’s DNA or Y haplotype (both tests from the same sample), 5 tests from 5 different samples yielded DNA compatible with a mixture of Ms. Kercher’s and Knox’s DNA, 2 tests yielded DNA compatible with a mixture of Ms. Kercher’s and Sollecito’s DNA or Y haplotype (both tests from the same sample), 4 tests yielded DNA compatible with Knox’s DNA, 1 test yielded DNA compatible with a mixture of Knox’s and Sollecito’s DNA, 2 tests yielded DNA compatible with an unknown female, 3 tests yielded DNA compatible with an unknown male and the remaining did not yield DNA useful for comparison.
8-08 4 tests were from samples taken (from bloodied tissue papers) found in the vicinity of the cottage, yielding DNA compatible with an unknown male or an unknown female.
8-09 16 tests were from samples taken from Sollecito’s car and no DNA useful for comparison was found.
8-10 102 tests were from samples taken from Sollecito’s apartment. Of these, 1 test yielded DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA, 6 tests yielded DNA compatible only with Knox’s DNA, 7 tests yielded DNA compatible with a combination of Knox and Sollecito’s DNA, 7 tests yielded DNA compatible only with Sollecito’s DNA, 3 tests yielded DNA of 3 unknown males and the remaining did not yield DNA useful for comparison.
8-11 29 tests were from samples taken from Guede’s apartment. Of these, 14 tests yielded DNA compatible with Guede’s DNA and the remaining did not yield DNA useful for comparison.
8-12 6 tests were from samples taken from the pub Le Chic and no DNA useful for comparison was found.
8-13 50 tests were from samples taken from the defendants or defendant’s items during arrests or likely at the police station. Of these, 6 tests yielded DNA compatible only with Guede’s DNA, 8 tests yielded DNA compatible only with Knox’s DNA, 1 test yielded DNA compatible with a combination of Knox and Sollecito’s DNA, 2 tests yielded DNA compatible only with Lumumba’s DNA, 4 tests yielded DNA compatible only with Sollecito’s DNA, 1 test yielded DNA of an unknown male and the remaining did not yield DNA useful for comparison.
8-14 Of the 82 tests yielding DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA at the cottage, 4 samples were taken from the corridor floor, 5 were taken from the kitchen/dining floor, 66 were taken from Ms. Kercher’s room and clothing, 1 was taken from the floor in Romanelli’s room and 6 were taken from the small bathroom.
8-15 17 tests yielded unmatchable DNA, with 6 tests yielding DNA compatible with 3 different females and 11 tests yielded DNA compatible with 7 different males. 13 of these samples were found in tissue paper outside the cottage and on cigarette butts in the ashtray in the cottage kitchen.
Area 9: DNA testing- specific
9-01 Ms. Kercher’s DNA was found on the kitchen knife at Sollecito’s apartment. Her DNA was found in a groove towards the cutting edge of the blade. The grove is part of a series of noticeable scratches running parallel along the blade.
9-02 Knox’s DNA was found on the top of the handle of the same knife.
9-03 A second sample of Knox’s DNA was also found on the same knife, where the blade goes into the handle. This second sample was an LCN sample of mixed DNA, and was statistically determined to be Knox’s DNA. (RIS Berti & Barni 2013 report)
9-04 DNA mixture compatible with Knox’s and Sollecito’s DNA was found on another stained pocket knife that Sollecito had.
9-05 DNA mixture compatible with Knox’s and Sollecito’s DNA was found on a cigarette butt in the cottage kitchen. Except for the bra clasp, no other samples at the cottage yielded Sollecito’s DNA.
9-06 7 samples yielded DNA mixtures compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA mixed with either Knox’s DNA, Sollecito’s DNA or Guede’s DNA.
9-07 DNA mixture compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA and Sollecito’s DNA was found on the metal bra clasp. Sollecito’s Y haplotype was also on the metal bra clasp.
9-08 DNA mixture compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA and Guede’s DNA was found on Ms. Kercher’s purse near the zipper.
9-09 DNA mixture compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA and Knox’s DNA was found in three blood traces in the bathroom- on the bidet drain plate, in the sink and on a plastic container containing cotton swabs.
9-10 DNA mixture compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA and Knox’s DNA was also found in a Luminol-revealed blood stain on the floor of Romanelli’s room, and in a Luminol-revealed bloody footprint in the corridor.
9-11 A second Luminol-revealed blood stain in Romanelli’s room yielded Ms. Kercher’s DNA.
9-12 A sample of blood from the small bathroom faucet yielded ONLY Knox’s DNA.
9-13 Guede’s DNA was found on Ms. Kercher’s purse, the left sleeve of her sweat jacket, her bra strap, in Ms. Kercher and on the toilet paper in the large bathroom.
Area 10. Other biological traces
10-01 3 samples of presumed blood traces were found in Knox’s bedroom, on a pillow, on the night stand and on the wall by the head of the bed.
10-02 No semen was found in Ms. Kercher.
10-03 Guede left his feces in the toilet in the large bathroom.
10-04 3 fragments of toilet paper were found on Ms. Kercher’s desk; all three yielded DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA.
10-05 2 tissue papers were found in Sollecito’s bedroom; both had blood that yielded DNA compatible with Sollecito’s DNA.
10-06 A glass on Ms. Kercher’s night stand yielded DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA.
10-07 A strand of hair and a trace of blood were found on Romanelli’s window frame. The blood trace did not yield human DNA; the hair color was dark chestnut.
10-08 5 samples of blood traces on a towel and faucet in Guede’s bathroom all yielded Guede’s DNA.
10-09 4 samples of blood stains on Guede’s jeans and a museum ticket in his jeans also yielded Guede’s DNA.
10-10 The range of digestive timing is, under normal circumstances, 3-5 hours. This range could easily be expanded depending on any number of factors, including stress and alcohol, both of which slow digestion. (Ronchi 2009)
10-11 Based on body temperatures and the digestive process, the time of death range was estimated between 20:00 of November 1st and 04:00 of November 2nd, with the probability that the time of death occurred around 23:00 of November 1st. (Lalli 2009)
Area 11. Luminol traces
11-01 1 sample of a Luminol-revealed blood trace was taken from Guede’s apartment.
11-02 9 samples of Luminol-revealed blood traces were taken from the cottage, including Knox’s room, the corridor and Romanelli’s room.
11-03 Knox’s and Ms. Kercher’s DNA was found on the Luminol-revealed blood stain in Romanelli’s room.
11-04 Knox’s and Ms. Kercher’s DNA was found mixed in a Luminol-revealed bloody right footprint in the corridor.
11-05 14 samples of Luminol-revealed blood traces were taken from Sollecito’s apartment.
11-06 6 samples were taken from Sollecito’s bathroom, including the door, floor and shower basin.
11-07 3 samples were taken from Sollecito’s bedroom, including the door and floor.
11-08 5 samples were taken from the floor of Sollecito’s kitchen.
11-09 2 of the Luminol-revealed samples taken from Sollecito’s apartment yielded DNA compatible with a mixture of Sollecito’s and Knox’s DNA. 1 sample yielded DNA compatible with Knox’s DNA.
11-10 1 sample yielded an unknown male’s DNA (unmatchable).
Area 12: Hairs
12-01 Of the over 480 tests prepared on samples, 93 of these constituted hairs or fibers. 86 were human hairs of varying length, in varying colors. The most significant colors noted were black, blonde, chestnut, light chestnut and red chestnut.
12-02 Only 3 hairs yielded DNA; all 3 hairs yielded DNA compatible with Ms. Kercher’s DNA. All 3 hairs were chestnut colored and over 15 cm long.
12-03 35 hairs were chestnut in color; the vast majority of these were found in Ms. Kercher’s room. 2 were also found on a kitchen sponge at Sollecito’s apartment.
12-04 7 hairs were black in color. 6 of these were 4 cm long or less, and so likely Guede’s hair. 4 of these were on the duvet and 1 was on the mattress cover, both in Ms. Kercher’s room. 1 was also on a sponge at Sollecito’s apartment.
12-05 21 blonde hairs were analyzed, and were likely Knox’s hairs. Most were found at Sollecito’s apartment, 10 on a sponge in the kitchen and 5 on a sweater.
12-06 Of the 6 blonde hairs found at the cottage, 2 were on the duvet, 1 was inside the small bathroom sink, 1 was on Ms. Kercher’s purse and 1 was on her mattress cover.
12-07 4 light chestnut hairs were found. 3 of these were 9 cm long or less. 1 was found on the kitchen sponge; 1 was found on the bra and one was found on Ms. Kercher’s sweat jacket. Sollecito had light chestnut colored hair.
3. Court Assessment & Knox Spin
Judge Micheli was the first judge to make something of all this evidence, late in 2008. Unsurprisingly, if one has actually studied it, one of his major findings was this.
The pack attack, and the crime-scene rearrangement. Led by Knox. She could have escaped trial right there by rebutting it. But she and her team had pretty well zero comeback.
Oh, Hampikian, you didn’t know that?!
The “counter-case” of Hampikian, and other such shills of the PR campaign as Heavey, Fischer, Douglas, and Moore, is like a three-legged stool, with all the rest of the case simply ignored.
- One leg is the Interrogation Hoax and we have shown in 20 posts that Knox always lied about that.
- One leg is the supposedly “flawed” DNA analysis that actually wasn’t, which KrissyG took first new whack at last week.
- The third leg is that there was no pack attack and that Guede somehow did all of the above on his own.
Including taking off a shoe to make ONE imprint in blood on the bathmat in a footprint several sizes smaller than his own…
On Planet Earth, nobody has ever come close to making all of the above fit a Lone Wolf. The defenses only listlessly went through the motions when they tried. Then they seized on Alessi and Aviello when they came along.
That was the defenses proving a pack attack!!
4. Tip for IP contributors
On Amanda Knox. Innocence Project Idaho rep Hampikian’s ONLY achievement was to be main cause of annulment of 2011 appeal, to anger of defense counsel. Thus he subjected Knox and RS to much tougher appeal, leading to desperate measures to bend Supreme Court. Thus Hampikian directly caused mafia involvement that Knox and RS must hide for life.
5. Next post in this series.
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Posted by Peter Quennell on 04/02/18 at 09:54 PM in
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The picture of Knox and Hampikian, glued together inappropriately like they were something more than friends, rictus grins firmly in place, tells me all I need to know about why he is involved in this case at all.
Knox’s once powerful physical allure (now pretty much gone in its entirety due to her premature ageing) called to this idiot like a siren calling him on to the rocks. The look on his face in that picture shows just how in thrall to her he is. Where is that left arm of his resting I wonder?
As Pete says in his tour de force of a post above, let’s see Hampikian refute the very clear evidence in the round, rather than focussing on the lack of Knox traces found in Meredith’s room alone, which can be attributed to the clean up and good old fashioned luck. Hampikian won’t because he can’t. None of the Knoxen can.
Posted by davidmulhern on 04/04/18 at 09:48 AM | #
It’s a pack of cards waiting to collapse.
@davidmulhern Should have gone to Specsavers…?
Posted by KrissyG on 04/04/18 at 12:32 PM | #
Hi davidmulhern
We don’t of course know how easy Knox was to come onto when she was released and many of the diligent made a beeline to claim their reward.
We do know that the Knox-Mellases frogmarched Steve Moore, Frank Sfarzo and Bruce Fischer away.
Hampikian looks to me like he has a few ferrets in his family tree. How did HE get so far? Perhaps she really did buy the crazy notion that he got her off?
What exactly were Candace Dempsey and Maddy Paxton looking for? And Michael Heavey? Mysteries still unresolved.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 04/04/18 at 07:19 PM | #
I’d like Greg Hampikian to explain why his doubts about the reliability of the DNA tests mean Amanda Knox must be innocent. It’s a non sequitur.
He needs to provide a plausible innocent explanation for Meredith’s DNA being on the blade of Sollecito’s kitchen knife and Sollecito’s DNA being on Meredith’s bra clasp.
Why is he so adamant that there was contamination and why does he flatly refuse to entertain the possibility even for a nanosecond that the bra clasp and knife weren’t contaminated? That isn’t a scientific approach.
He should explain why he is certain Amanda Knox is innocent when she wasn’t with him on the night of the murder and there is no exculpatory evidence.
I’d also like him to address the incriminating pieces of evidence that he has ignored or he is unaware of e.g. the multiple false alibis and numerous lies, the staged break-in, Amanda Knox’s specific knowledge about the crime, the bare bloody footprints which match Knox and Sollecito’s feet revealed by Luminol and the bloody footprint on the bathmat.
Does he feel defending child rapists, convicted sex offenders and killers is his vocation or does it just pay well?
Has he ever thought about the victims of these horrific crimes?
Posted by The Machine on 04/04/18 at 08:11 PM | #
The Machine (rightly) has mistrusted Hampikian for years. In the series we are going to repost key passages from his past posts.
He needs to provide a plausible innocent explanation for Meredith’s DNA being on the blade of Sollecito’s kitchen knife and Sollecito’s DNA being on Meredith’s bra clasp.”
He had NO contamination proof. None that anyone ever saw. Innuendo and nothing else.
But the Supreme Court First Chambers said claims of contamination MUST be accompanied by proof.
In Hampikian’s case this attempt at proof entered the realm of the seriously surreal.
Hampikian’s university claimed to Andrea Vogt that he had “secret methods” which could not be revealed - even though We the Taxpayers funded the research.
So. “Secret methods” = “Secret proof”?!
Hampikian’s failure to deliver let the defenses down on this, as did his illegal interactions with C&V. RS lawyer Bongiorno for one was really ticked.
His failure to deliver is why Hampikian did such damage to the RS & AK defense, and contributed mightily to the annulling of the Hellman verdict.
And thus to the mafias being invited in.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 04/04/18 at 08:55 PM | #
A major cause of the crash & burn of the Hampikians is that none of them are lawyers. And even fewer if that is possible are Italian lawyers.
The Hampikians, Heaveys, Moores & Fischers incessantly trot out their weak-link-in-a-chain theory: that reasonable doubt must apply to every last bit of evidence (though of course only to that in the bedroom.)
However, it doesn’t. If only one piece speaks guilt to the jury, that can end any reasonable doubt, in the only minds that matter.
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/reasonable_doubt_in_italian_law/
Even if any one evidence point was “ruled out” (none were) way too many points still speak to a crime-scene rearrangement and cleanup, and to several attackers (for which there’s proof only of the three charged).
Discredit only several points as Hampikian claims (wrongly) he did, and he just cannot win. Dozens and dozens still remain standing.
Here is the 2013 Supreme Court First Chambers report annulling the 2011 Hellman outcome in part because Hellman used the same faulty reasonable doubt notion as the Hampikians.
2.2.3 †Manifest lack of logic and inconsistency in the reasoning in reference to the use of the principle of reasonable doubt in sustaining the order of 18.12.2010. [According to the lawyers for the Civil Parties], the verdict of conviction beyond a reasonable doubt could have been reached even after the outcome of the expert report arranged for in the second instance trial, inasmuch as the examination of the circumstantial evidence ought to have been global and consistent, the hypothetical defect of any one of these being acceptable, provided that the remaining elements were – as they ought to have been deemed – sufficient to reach the required level of certainty, since what is asked of isolated elements of proof being evaluated is that they display the credentials of correspondence with real events, at least with predominant probability. Proof of guilt beyond reasonable doubt can rest on items of circumstantial evidence that are not all equally certain, that is, not all established with the same level of probability.
The next appeal judge, Nencini, was ordered not to do that - though as he was actually competent in criminal law, unlike the business judge Hellman, he would not have done so anyway.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 04/05/18 at 11:43 PM | #
We’re to believe Rudy Guede committed this terrible act, then he waited the several minutes for Meredith to die; when he knows she’s dead (and powerless to remove a blanket) he covers Meredith with the blanket (even though he will lock her door), after that he locks her door, then he runs out the house and leaves the front door open.
Rather, Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito locked Meredith’s door after the attack, and went back later to clean and cover Meredith (as in Barbie Nadeau book).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JZBA9VK/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Posted by DavidB on 04/06/18 at 03:52 PM | #
Hi DavidB
Good one. We have strategic posts coming up on the pack attack and the farce of the theory of the Lone Wolf.
Anybody who wants to read the Lone Wolf theory pushed to lunatic extremes (and who does not?!!) should read anything by Fischer, anything by Moore, and this demented book.
https://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Killer-Murder-Meredith-Kercher-ebook/dp/B00I3QZ7G0
Not one word on why they called Guede the “forgotten” killer. He wasn’t, he was talked about every day at trial and Hellman appeal.
Perhaps they mean that the prosecution forgot to call him to respond to the defense trashings day by day?
Or that he was forgotten about when a DEFENSE witness testified (paid by the Sollecitos) that his missing brother and one other not named Guede did the attack?
Ship of Dopes.
Posted by Peter Quennell on 04/06/18 at 07:00 PM | #
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